Wal-Mart Knife Policy ?

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Let's not forget that many of these businesses may have had poor service and charged high prices to a captive audience in the small towns where they were located and Wal-Mart first established itself as a player before coming to major urban areas. I've been ripped a few times by places like this, so there is likely a sizable number of businesses that alienated their customers who didn't have to be asked twice when a viable alternative appeared.

Wal-Mart now is on its way to becoming, if not already, the largest grocery store chain. Many of the big chains are hurting, but their high prices, poor service, and antiquated facilities (like most of the Winn-Dixies or Piggly Wigglys I've been to), mean I do a large chunk of grocery shopping at W-M instead. I do the rest at Publix because they carry many high quality specialty items and their meat isn't pre-packaged cryo-vac stuff like at W-M, along with good service and a nice atmosphere. I wouldn't cry if the non-competetive stores go under, since they never did anything for me.
 
Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart is now entrenched and uses their power to keep their competition down.

Bovine Scat! What Socialists have you been listening to :rolleyes:


50 years ago the A&P Grocery Store chain was HUGE. They "controlled" a higher percentage of the grocery store market back then than WalMart does now.

When was the last time you walked into an A&P?

If they can fall to competition so can WalMart ... as soon as they stop satisfying the market they will die like any other business.


As for their employees being somehow mistreated, the only reason people say that is because WalMart is non union and the socialist/union thugs lie about how poorly WalMart employees are treated to frighten the union dupes ...er... members into sending in those union dues.

I've compared the employees at WalMart, K-Mart, Albertsons and Kroger and frankly the WalMart ones always seem the friendliest ... that says to me they aren't being mistreated (retail workers at this level don't hide their disdain for management from the customers).

Read this article because Dr. Thomas Sowell is much better at explaining this then I.


Throw out that warn copy of Das Capital and pick up a copy of F.A. Hayek's The Road to Surfdom
 
Couldn't Winchester solve at least part of this argument by simply putting the Value Packs on their price lists that they supply to other retailers? I'm sure Winchester makes a profit on the Value Packs sold to Walmart. That's the nature of business, right? What's stopping them from offering inexpensive ammo to other gun stores and outdoor retailers? Does Walmart have a stranglehold on the Value Packs? It seems that Winchester SHOULD have some say over where their products are sold, so why aren't we complaining to them?

Let's face it, if our local gun stores sold 100 rounds of 9x19 for $10.96 and .45ACP for $19.96, we wouldn't be buying as much ammo at Walmart.

Until my local gun store can match those prices, I'll continue to be an ammo consumer at Walmart. Though it is sometimes quite a challenge to find an employee to hand over the merchandise.:rolleyes:
 
It seems that Winchester SHOULD have some say over where their products are sold, so why aren't we complaining to them?

If I understand it correctly the Winchester 100rd value packs are a deal that Winchester made with Walmart because Walmart is capable of buying more ammo in one order then most gun dealers will order in a decade.
 
Thanks spiff!

I was too busy fighting the mind-numbing awe I was experiencing and tripping over pallets of ammo at Sportmans Warehouse to notice the price on their shotgun shells.:D
Now I have to look for a miscreant to drop off at Cook Inlet or Anchorage CC. :evil:
 
Because their very many, very well-paid lobbyists helped write the laws regarding how they run their business.

Almost every law regarding how they run their business has been in effect since before Sam Walton even opened his first store.

Success, despite all of the efforts of the socialists, is not illegal.
 
Because their very many, very well-paid lobbyists helped write the laws regarding how they run their business.

So what "evil" and "unfair" laws have Walmart's lobbyists helped write? :scrutiny:
 
ducktapehero

"I like those 100 round 45acp value packs. It's kinda hit or miss around here. The Super Wal-Marts up in Springfield sell them but are usually out. If I see them I will grab a box or 2. The little Wal-Mart in my town doesn't stock them but they are building a Super Wal-Mart right now so it won't be long."


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I bet you live in Ozark.

I ocassionally get .45 value pack at the South SuperCenter up in Springfield. However, they never seem to have more than two available at a time.
 
If I understand it correctly the Winchester 100rd value packs are a deal that Winchester made with Walmart because Walmart is capable of buying more ammo in one order then most gun dealers will order in a decade.

You can get Federal American Eagle .45 ACP for the same price ($10/50rds),
it's cleaner ammo, and you don't have to deal with morons, wait in long lines or possibly get scabies from the clientele.:scrutiny:
 
Some of them offer free shipping for large orders. In most cases, the shipping cost is offset by no sales tax. Now, if you only order two boxes, then it may not make sense. Buy big, save big. :D

Balance that against driving the Wally-World,
walking all the way to the back (where they hide the evil gun stuff),
then searching for the SGM,
then getting the right stuff (what you need rather than what they decide you need i.e. 357 sig when you want .357 mag),
or finding out that they are out (or never carried it :confused: )
then checkout (assuming they had any),
then the drive home,
and sales tax,
and gas,
and wear and tear,
and, finally,



the emotional pain and suffering

I would rather be shooting :D
 
Walmart is capitalism at it's best. :)

Capitalism at it's best is service at it's worst. :)

This thread makes me feel so very lucky that my local gun shop has competitive prices with the big guys, and are so nice that they call me by name when I go in there, and I'm not by any means a big customer.

-James


p.s. I'm talking about www.fsguns.com
 
So what "evil" and "unfair" laws have Walmart's lobbyists helped write?
Here's one that is about to get voted down. (Walmart failed to get this passed through the City Council, so they paid for a petition drive to get a ballot measure.)

Early returns show voters leaning away from Wal-Mart measure
ALEX VEIGA, AP Business Writer
Tuesday, April 6, 2004


(04-06) 22:38 PDT INGLEWOOD, Calif. (AP) --

Voters in this Los Angeles suburb rejected a ballot measure that would have allowed Wal-Mart to build a warehouse-sized store while skirting zoning, traffic and environmental reviews.

With 25 of 29 precincts reporting Tuesday, Inglewood voters opposed the initiative, with 65.7 percent voting 'no' and 34.2 percent voting 'yes,' said Gabby Contreras of the city clerk's office.

That amounts to 4,419 votes against the initiative and 2,305 in favor.

"This is very, very positive for those folks who want to stand up and ... hold this corporate giant responsible," said Daniel Tabor, a former City Council member who had campaigned against the initiative.

Inglewood's City Council last year blocked the proposed shopping center, which would include both a Wal-Mart Supercenter and other stores, prompting the company to collect more than 10,000 signatures to force the vote in the working-class community.

But Tuesday's vote is not likely to settle the debate, which has pitted religious leaders, community activists and unions against the world's largest retailer. Opponents have vowed to take legal action if the measure passes.

Wal-Mart has argued in Inglewood and elsewhere in California that its stores create jobs and said residents should be able to decide for themselves if they want the stores in their community.

But opponents say the Supercenters amount to low-wage, low-benefit job mills that displace better-paying jobs as independent retailers are driven out of business. They also fear the stores will contribute to suburban sprawl and jammed roadways.

Alversia Carmouche, a beauty shop owner who voted against the measure Tuesday, said she was convinced the behemoth discount store would ultimately hurt the community.

"Maybe the store would possibly be a good thing in the beginning, but it will drive out the smaller businesses," said Carmouche, 66. "I really feel it will absolutely close this town out."
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Objections to the Bentonville, Ark.-based Wal-Mart have surfaced elsewhere around the country, including Chicago, where the City Council recently stalled a measure to approve the first Wal-Mart inside city limits because of concerns about the company's labor practices.

The company succeeded in lobbying residents of Contra Costa County in suburban San Francisco. Residents there voted last month to allow a Supercenter. But Wal-Mart also lost a vote that day to allow it to open another store near San Diego.

But organizing a ballot initiative in Inglewood was a rare move by Wal-Mart, said Ken Walker, regional director at Kurt Salmon Associates, a retail consulting company.

Previously, Wal-Mart has battled zoning boards, but Walker said this is the first time he's seen the discounter taking the issue to a public referendum.

Wal-Mart officials have said they have not decided what they would do if the initiative failed. The company spent more than $1 million on its Inglewood campaign, according to campaign-finance records, while opponents have spent a fraction of that amount.

The opposition, however, enlisted public figures, including the Rev. Jesse Jackson to rally voters to its side. On Monday, Jackson and Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., urged residents to vote against the Supercenter.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/04/06/financial0015EDT0164.DTL
 
Opponents have vowed to take legal action if the measure passes.

Gee, isn't a vote by the people sufficient, or do we have to get an unelected judge to determine what is right? :rolleyes:

The opposition, however, enlisted public figures, including the Rev. Jesse Jackson to rally voters to its side. On Monday, Jackson and Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., urged residents to vote against the Supercenter.

Yep, the folks who inhabit Inglewood, which I believe are mainly poor and ethnic, might find employment opportunities opening up with a new W-M, thus reducing their dependence on the handouts Jesse and Maxine work so hard to give them. We wouldn't want them to forget who they are beholden to, now would we? :rolleyes:
 
Here's one that is about to get voted down. (Walmart failed to get this passed through the City Council, so they paid for a petition drive to get a ballot measure.)

Early returns show voters leaning away from Wal-Mart measure...

Holy Cats! What kind of Socialist Police State requires a public vote for a business to open?

I still fail to see what law Walmart tried to get passed?



The opposition, however, enlisted public figures, including the Rev. Jesse Jackson to rally voters to its side. On Monday, Jackson and Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., urged residents to vote against the Supercenter.

Yep ... rich leftists making sure the common man has to spend more for their groceries and other staple items ... also making sure no poor folk have jobs availalbe :rolleyes:




What too many don't understand is that Free Market Capitalism is the financial equal to RKBA.
 
w4rma,

Do you live in SoCal? I have been down here all week listening to the hootin and hollerin about this. I have also been in Inglewood on several occasions. What a "lovely little burb."

At issue is a corrupt city council which does not want an "evil wal-mart."

The mayor does.

"Evil Wal-Mart" wants to put a super store on a vacant piece of land which has been vacant for 70 years. 60 acres of vacant land.

Inglewood is poor. Average income $15,000 per year according to the census. Unemployment is 25% for the 16-26 YO crowd according to the census.

Anticipated revenue to the city on taxes alone is $5,000,000 per year. From what is now vacant land. They will have the ability to leverage that $5M/yr into a $100,000,000 bond for sprucing up the area and perhaps getting new businesses, industry, retail, etc.

Wal-Mart expects 1,500 jobs from the project including other retail/eating establishments anchored to Wal-Mart. There would be 2,500 construction jobs.

To listed to Maxine "No Justice, No Peace" Waters rant, you would think Bill Gates was moving in (I would say evil incarnate, but she likes Castro just fine, so she has a warped sense of evil).

So what do you tell the unemployed young males? Go rob a bank? Join a gang? Run drugs?

How does the city improve its lot now that it has given a large retailer the bum's rush?

Inglewood is a pit of poverty, gangs, and ghettos. And I guess all of the "progressives" want to keep it that way.
 
Holy Cats! What kind of Socialist Police State requires a public vote for a business to open?
It was a vote to allow Wal-Mart exemption from "zoning, traffic and environmental reviews." Without which they couldn't build what they wanted.
 
It was a vote to allow Wal-Mart exemption from "zoning, traffic and environmental reviews." Without which they couldn't build what they wanted.

Walmarts aren't exactly a Hazmat danger or heavy industrial site ... if you have laws against building a simple retail store in a vacant lot (especially in an area that really needs it) then that still sounds like a Socialist Police State to me.


So what could they build there?
 
WWB in 9mm, .40 S&W, .45ACP value packs

All present at the Wally-World here today. Looked like plenty to me.

I think there were 12 of each on the shelves. SG guy said no problem with supply here..
 
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