Walther P99c decocking procedure?

[jacklord]

I have the P99c and I'm a little confused about the decocking procedure.

After I insert a full mag and chamber a round, the pistol is ready to fire unless I decock it.

When the pistol is decocked, am I correct in saying that the only way to fire a round is to rack the slide back slightly, just enough to cock the striker?

That was always my impression, and while at the range, whenever I decock the pistol, I pull the trigger a few times just to make sure it won't fire. I only ask because in the manual that came with the gun, it states that when the pistol is decocked, it can fire, but only in double action; racking the slide back slightly will also accomplish the goal of firing a round, but it will be fired in single action.

I'm confused because as per the manual, it suggests that after decocking, just by pulling the trigger, a round can be fired, albeit in DAO. My experience has proven otherwise; once the pistol is decocked, you CANNOT fire a round without first racking the slide back slightly, in effect, 'recocking' the striker.

Any P99 owners have any insight?

 

[Spartacus451]

You have managed to completely confuse me, congrats. Do you have the AS version?
With the P99 and any of the action variants you should ALWAYS be able to fire if a round is chambered and you pull the trigger, I belive this is the case even with the QA variant (I could be wrong). With the AS variant you should be able to fire after decocking if a round is in the chamber. If it doesn't you may have a problem.

Don't rely on me though, I don't even own one yet.

 

[Navy87Guy]

It definitely sounds like you have the QA version of the pistol. The decocker on that model is only designed to be used when field stripping the pistol -- it is not intended to use while carrying. As you've learned, decocking a QA model turns it into a $500 paperweight. It serves no tactical or practical purpose. That's exactly the reason that I carry a P99 AS model -- so I always have the DA mode available and a second strike capability.

Jim

 

[The Good]

i dont know if that means he has a QA. WHen you decock a p99 it goes to double action which means when you pull the trigger, the hammer will go back and then forward, firing the bullet. when you rack the slide back, you are cocking the gun, thus putting it in single action. Single action means the hammer is back and the trigger pull is shorter, because all it is doing is dropping the hammer on the bullet.

for it to fire, there needs to be a bullet in the chamber. if you have loaded the gun and have not racked the slide back, the chamber is not loaded and the gun wont fire.

 

[Riktoven]

If you have a big decocker button (about a thumb's width) then you have an AS P99. Gun can always fire if a round is in the chamber.

If you have a small decocker button (maybe 1/3" wide) then you have the QA version. Gun only fires if striker is pre-cocked. Paperweight like Navyguy said. For people whose dept. won't allow DA/SA guns and the people who just don't like them.

 

[Mr Kablammo]

The above post is correct. Maybe you should compare your P99 to some pictures at the Walther homepage to see which P99 that you have. Does the slide list the importer as Interarms or Smith & Wesson? Does it have a QA or an AS on the slide?

 

[jacklord]

Navyguy is correct, I have the QA version.
When ever I decock the weapon, I cannot fire a round unless I re-rack the slide approximately 1/8 of an inch. I guess the AS version is different from the QA in that when the gun is decocked, you can still fire a round albeit in DAO.

I don't know if Walther neglected to change their manual to reflect this feature for the QA version(I have the QA and my manual says you can fire a round without re-racking the slide after decocking).

 

[Shipwreck]

I have prev heard this issue about the manual before.

But, even though the QA decocks and is inoperative - IF you have a round in the chamber, and are not at the range, you should not be pulling the trigger at all. If the gun is unloaded, however, and U are simulating that it is loaded, then feel free to do all that U did.

 

[Soybomb]

The decocker on the QA is only meant to give you a means to take the weapon down without pulling the trigger like you would on a glock.

 

[Navy87Guy]

I don't know if Walther neglected to change their manual to reflect this feature for the QA version(I have the QA and my manual says you can fire a round without re-racking the slide after decocking).

Read page 10 of your manual -- it gives a detailed (and accurate) description of the take down lever (not really a decocker) on the QA model.

It does look like all they did was insert a short description of the QA system into the existing manual for the AS and DAO models.

Jim

 

[jacklord]

Thanks Jim, I appreciate all the info.