Decockers...what's the difference?

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Even though the gun shouldn't be carried with the hammer in this position, the safety will engage. One of the nice things about HK pistols is the multitude of safety/decocker configurations that can be had. If you can't find something that works for you, I just don't know what to tell you. I stick with what is probably the most common setup, DA/SA with decocking function.
 

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The USP decocker drops the hammer to a half-cock position. Here the pistol is decocked with the lever in the "fire" position.
 

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And here the pistol is decocked and on safe. No NDs here!
 

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This illustrates the USP at full cock, with safety off and ready to fire. USP Compact models have a bobbed hammer; this is one of the full-size models.
 

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As can be seen in these photos, the USP series can be carried about any way you want. This shows the classic 1911-style cocked and locked configuration (although the frame-mounted safety on the HK doesn't actually lock the slide.)
 

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The USP uses one lever as both safety and decocker, but it is set up much like a 1911 - safe is up, fire is down, and decock is way down. The lever automatically returns to the middle, firing position when released after decocking. You might inadvertently decock the pistol, but it's pretty unlikely you'd inadvertently put it on safe.
 

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HK changed things up a bit with the P2000 and the later P30, switching from decocker/safety lever to a decocking button on the rear of the slide. The P2000 does not use a safety lever at all; the P30 series is available with them and mine have them. The pistol in this series of photos is a P30S. The first picture shows the pistol with the hammer lowered all the way; again, this is not how the gun should be carried.
 

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Although this isn't where the decocker puts the hammer, the safety will still engage.
 

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It's a bit hard to tell here, but the P30 decocker lowers the hammer to a half-cock position. I'm not sure if it's because of the shape of the slide or the hammer, but half-cock on the P30 seems to be a bit lower than on the USP.
 

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As with the USP, the decocked P30 can be put on safe.
 

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Condition One. Moving the decocker to a rear-mounted button does eliminate any concerns about inadvertently decocking the weapon while trying to take it off safe; it also makes the pistol thinner if you choose a version without the safety lever.
 

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Here's a look at the decocking button from the rear.
 

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The P2000/P30 decocker works by being swiped down. It requires very little pressure to operate and it is serrated for easy purchase. However, because it sits almost flush against the rear of the slide, it won't be activated unintentionally. It is an interesting alternative to side-mounted decocking levers.
 

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This is a CZ P-01, shown with the hammer fully lowered. This is not where the decocking lever puts it and it shouldn't be carried this way.
 

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Honestly, the biggest complainers are the 1911 guys who are so used to that design. The Berretta S&W, and similar decockers/safeties are backwards from a 1911. If someone owns both designs I can see it causing confusion. But the truth is that both designs work. It is just personal preference and what you are used to.
 
This is the half-cock position to which the CZ's decocking lever lowers the hammer. As you can see, it stands a bit proud of the rear of the pistol.
 

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This is the CZ hammer fully cocked and ready to fire in single action. Unlike the pistols previously illustrated, there is no safety position on decocker-equipped CZs. It is always ready to shoot. CZ does make guns fitted with manual safeties but you can't have both on the same pistol.
 

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This photo illustrates the operation of the CZ decocker. As you can see, it pivots down and forward, unlike HK or SIG levers, which move down and slightly to the rear. This feels a bit odd at first but doesn't seem to make any practical difference.
 

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Finally we come to the SIG system, in this case illustrated by an old West German P6. This shows the gun decocked. There is no half-cock position; the decocking lever lowers the hammer fully.
 

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In this photo the hammer is cocked. You get a little trigger camming action with DA/SA guns when you're manipulating them, but it's nothing you'll ever notice while shooting.
 

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The decocking lever sweeps down with a slight arc to the rear. Very intuitive and easy to use, the classic SIG feature.

This concludes my look at decockers; I hope it was useful.
 

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Not going to do all the photos, but FN has, at least on some models like the FNX, a safety lever which behaves much like a 1911, but if you push it further down (past fire) it decocks. I've always had a mixed view on that because if you follow the "ride the lever" school of 1911 safety use it could result in inadvertent decocking.
 
I want to echo those who said the main complaint is the activation of the safety during slide manipulation/ malfunction clearance. This is a very big deal in high stress shooting. Muscle memory (vs a 1911) isnt really a big deal because most of those who have a real need to carry it carry it chambered, decocked, and safety off. I do the sharpie trick too if necessary.


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Sergei- I accidentally flipped the M9 to safe a few times (I wore out 2 M9 pistols that were new/refurbished when issued, in about 5 years so I shot them quite a bit) when I was in the mil. As an instructor in an advanced training course, I saw it happen frequently enough that it was a concern. It was borderline "chronic" with some of the "corn fed gym rats" that were common in my unit, esp. when they were wearing their gloves, which we wore on real world operations. In the real world, this only needs to happen once.Think about it- using a pistol out of necessity (extreme close quarters/confined space, ladder ascent, primary weapons failure, etc.) and the shooter experiences a malfunction- meaning the gunfight has already started- and the gun in his hand (a handgun is the least preferred gun in a gunfight, but you run what you brung) lets him/her down. Shooter employs the universally taught drill to correct the malfunction (remember- you have the rest of your life to get it done) and re-engages the threat, and... nothing. Because of what many believe to be a design flaw.

If a reserve parachute, which is another emergency use item for exigent circumstances when time is of the essence had such a design that MAY prevent the jumper from activating said item to save his/her life, I know the military would take immediate steps to modify or replace that reserve rag with quickness. I know this because the static line reserve was replaced or modified at least twice while I was in the military.
 
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