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Wanna educate a self-described "libertarian" who opposes lifting D.C. gun control?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by cuchulainn, Jul 17, 2003.

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  1. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Member

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    I really don't have the time right now.

    There's a message board to reply to the article.

    http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=2&id=3640

     
  2. GregoryTech

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    The one point that I can probably agree on with this author is that lifting the ban will not likely reduce the murder rate significantly. I believe so because I believe that it is probably mostly gang on gang, criminal vs criminal activity anyway. Besides, Hatch is not proposing a concealed carry bill. He is proposing that law-abiding residents of DC should be allowed to own guns and have them in their homes and businesses. I'd bet that occupied home invasions (the most dangerous kind, as I understand it), and armed robbery of open businesses will drop significantly, though. And the residents of DC will be safer as a result.
     
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    Exactly

    The residents of DC should heave the God-given right of self-protection. Those who oppose this right all have bodyguards. Also, every state that has become "Shall Issue" has shown a drop in the crime rate. "An armed society is a polite society".
     
  4. cuchulainn

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    OK, I may have misread this guy.

    He seems to be questioning Hatch's reasoning, not the removal of the law.

    It seems a bit odd to me to favor (or at least not oppose) the removal of a law while attacking the reasoning given for removing the law ... something for logic class, but not normal discourse ... but to each his own.
     
  5. Drjones

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    Guys, follow the link and read some of the other posts.

    There is a VERY good reason that site is called "Morons."

    :rolleyes:

    If this fellow is capable of, interested in, and willing for mature, intelligent, and logical debate, invite him here rather than have us chase him in his current sewer.

    Otherwise, send him an "I'm Unarmed, please don't hurt me!" shirt with my regards. :evil:
     
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    A communique from bliss ninny heaven, I guess. Whew!
     
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    While there is a lot of gang related violence, there is also an astonishing level of classic "stick-em-up"... "bang-you're-dead" robbery-homicide in D.C. If restoration of 2nd Amendment rights to the people of D.C. won't decrease the level of violent crime at least it will give the folks there the option of protecting themselves properly.
     
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    It's not a gun issue.

    Ask the simple question, If I charged at you with:

    A) A gun
    B) A machete

    Which would you be more afraid of? My bet is that a machete or a katana is going to be MUCH more intimidating. But most everybody has access to one, and purchase one without a license. So no big deal. It's not a gun issue, it's really a "bad guys will be bad" issue. No matter what laws you pass, they are "bad guys" and so they don't obey the law. If you have DC-esque laws, all you do is keep the guns from the hands of normal honest, law-abiding citizens.

    If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.

    It's that simple.
     
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    It isn't about the guns, it's about the people.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -- Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis (1952)
     
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    Making a Note of that one:D, just wish the goverments would as well....:banghead:
     
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    Hey, what is the problem?
    They've outlawed guns, so now only the criminals have guns (which, oddly enough, includes the city government...) Isn't this supposed to be the ideal situation?
     
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