Want to get into turkey hunting..

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So I'm looking into turkey hunting, looking for a list of reccomended equipment, so far am ordering a new barrel (neccessary in my case, my shotgun has security barrel right now, :O) am buying a turkey choke off Bass pro, could use a reccomendation in turkey loads (do not want a ton of recoil here, can take 3 or 2 3/4 inches, would prefer latter.) need reccomendation in scouting, camo, calls, technique in using assorted calls, (I have time to practice..) and any other related info would be helpful! Thanks!
 
ive been hearing people using #4 & #5 shot with the 2 3/4shells, i use a 3 inch turkey load myself. if ya got the money to spend , then get some slate calls or a box call, something easy to learn. camo depends on your hunting area, a ground blind or one of those ground blind walls will do. get some decoys to if ya can.i watch them year round but then i can see them from my back porch.. but when season gets closer i get out there about 2-3 weeks early every few days to see whats been going on..hope this helps you any, im sure you`ll get alot of info about it here.
 
scmerril, which brand of which shot size do you reccomend? I am planning on building my own ground blind, any tips for scouting? Can you reccomend a particular set of calls, decoys? Thanks
 
I turkey hunted once and got a nice tom, only one I've ever had the pleasure of shooting. I bought one of those push button box calls. Takes a hand to use it, but you can tape it to the barrel or fore end of your shotgun. It sure's heck worked! I didn't even have a decoy, would have been even easier with one. I just used a chunk of camo cloth draped over some brush for a blind and leaned against a tree.

I tried those mouth diaphragms. I gag and throw up on 'em. :rolleyes:
 
There used to be an old joke about someone wanting to buy a sailboat. Would-be sailor was told to try putting on foul weather gear, standing in a cold shower and tearing up $100 bills by the handful to get an idea what owning a sailboat was like.

If there was any equivalent advice to taking up turkey hunting, it would involve something about getting up well before daylight, stumbling through the woods in the dark and sitting someplace uncomfortable for hours in the cold/wet and waiting... waiting... waiting.

But somehow that doesn't take into consideration what it does to your heart rate hearing those great big birds fly down from their roost trees in the barely emerging dawn. It doesn't figure on the excitement of getting a tom to answer your first feeble efforts at calling. There's nothing in there about that sinking feeling when your camouflage or sit-still self discipline fails and the tom that was allllllmost in range spots you and vanishes. You'll never know how strong your ribcage is until your heart tries to pound its way through as finally looks as if you'll get a shot at a big tom.

Yeah, a person has to be some kind of crazy to take up sailing. Or turkey hunting. :D

Good luck!

lpl
 
Yeah, a person has to be some kind of crazy to take up sailing. Or turkey hunting.

No problem, I'm plenty crazy enough to tackle turkey hunting, I get that same feeling when I squirrel hunt (only type of hunting I've been granted so far..)
 
I've gotten five turkeys in five years. Before that, I hunted hard for three years and never got a shot.

I'd forget the ground blind. Turkeys go where they go, not where you want them to go. Gotta be mobile.

Get a head net that has the eye holes cut out. I had one that was full coverage that cost me a shot the 2nd year I hunted. Too hard to judge distance.

I'd strongly suggest Hevi-Shot. It works WAY, WAY better than lead. Yeah, it's more expensive. I've killed five birds with five shots. Not expensive after all.

Movement is the killer. Gotta hold still once they can see you. They can see very, very small movements way, way off.

Easiest way to get a bird is to roost them. They will fly down into an open field. Need to have your decoys set up at least 45 minutes before sunrise.

DO NOT practice calling on your birds before season. They'll associate you with the call and it won't work. In fact, it will spook them off.

Get a turkey vest. Holds all your stuff. Padded seat keeps your butt dry. Trust me on this.
 
DO NOT practice calling on your birds before season. They'll associate you with the call and it won't work. In fact, it will spook them off.

Oh no, I'm gonna practice with my calls in my surburban home (providing Mom is outa the house, or has ear plugs, lol) Thanks for info, ok, Hevi-shot, gotcha, which size do you reccomend? (Using with turkey full choke)
 
For loads: 2 3/4" copper/nickel plated #4,5,6 shot (1 1/4 or 1 3/8 oz) the key is to pattern with your new choke. one shot size or brand will pattern much better than the rest; spend some time and money and you will be rewarded.
There are many Turkey hunting books, check out your local library, or Amazon.com. You will need: 1-2 turkey calls, one locator call (owl or crow), camo everything, and some decoys. Be sure to check out you local DNR to determine legal hunting regs. Check out:

http://www.nwtf.org/
 
I don't see any need for a ground blind. You will have to move around and with good camo and sitting still I have had hens come close enough that I could have kicked them. Which worked out well; I let them do the calling and decoy duty to lure in a big tom.

I use 3" 2 oz Winchester #4 turkey loads. I wear an extra pad and pattern standing up, so recoil is not an issue. You shoot once per day when turkey hunting, so recoil while hunting is no big deal. One time I did shoot with my shoulder resting solidly against a tree. A mistake I won't make again!

Turkey hunting is real hunting, not sniping at some animal across a canyon. You have to lure the animal in by speaking its language like a native, remain unseen and dispatch it at close quarters.

Try it, you'll like it.
 
Buying hunting stuff is not as fun for me as it once was.
I like to minimize on some hunting stuff now days.
I let my mother-in-law buy it for me, seeing how I'm her personal favorite son-in-law.
Pretty easy - seeing how I'm her ONLY son-in-law.:p
Ever since I started using a 10ga for Turkey hunting, I've never needed to take a shot longer than 20yards.
Hevi shot is a waste of money for Turkey, IMHO, lead has a VERY similar density. That USED to be the whole selling point of hevi-shot. Marketing earned its money on that one.:barf:
A modified choke works excellent ( full IS better ), lead #4-5-6 shot; usually some places have pheasant loads around for cheap this time of year.
The most important things - to have is a place to go, being still and quiet, and having fun.
Turkey hunting has huge potential expenses with little payback. Except for the good times.
 
Buying hunting stuff is not as fun for me as it once was.

Same here.

I'm getting back in to turkey hunting this year after a 2 year absence. It amazed me the amount of "stuff" I had in my vest.

I plan on going "simple" this year. 2 3/4" shells (whichever size patterns best in my gun). Not going to shell out the bucks for "turkey loads", plan on using regular heavy shotshells. One or two diaphragm calls and my trusty box. No aftermarket choke tubes, will try the turkey choke that came with my gun. Make it more about fun than lugging half the sporting goods store through the woods.
 
wow where to start...

1. choke - not necessary but generally adds a few yards to your loads
2. loads - no big secret here. pattern pattern pattern. i actually still use the first load i used as a kid. remington high vel mags in #6
3. calls - i for one am a HUGE believer that you cant carry too many calls. more than a few times i have thrown everything at a bird and its that last call you dig out that does the trick. start with a simple box and push button. then grab a slate or three. diaphrams are cheap so pick some up too. its so easy to learn to call now with youtube out there! hint hint!
4. camo - just get lots of it! cover up!
 
My two cents here goes.

1. Patterning. Opinions vary greatly on what is or isn't worth the money when it comes to shell and chokes. But whatever choke or shell combo you choose pattern it before hunting. My general rule of thumb is that 100 pellets inside a 10 inch circle is a killing pattern. Whatever the maximum distance your gun will print at least that pattern that's your maximum range. Also, not all shotgun barrels throw their patterns exactly to the point of aim. So I would recommend shooting at a 10 inch circle drawn in the center of a full sheet of poster paper. That way you can see what your whole load is doing and exactly where the center of it is hitting. Some type of adjustable sight might be needed if yours is throwing patterns high, low, left, or right of center.

2. Calls? Just starting out I'd recommend a Lynch Fool Proof box call. Not very expensive and as simple as it gets to master. Despite all the new fangled stuff they come out with each year for calling turkeys, people have been killing birds down here in Alabama with box calls for over a 100 years. As you gain more experience you can move on to slate calls which are the second easiest and then mouth calls which are the hardest.

3. Calling? Forget all the over calling you see on TV shows. Less is best. Some soft yelps and soft clucks are all you need to kill turkeys. Usually the hen goes to the gobbler not the other way around. So when calling a gobbler you are trying to get him to go against the norm. If you call too much and seem too excited he will often hang up and wait for the hen/you to come to him.

4. Patience. The number one virtue for turkey hunting. I messed up a lot of opportunities to kill a bird back when I first started hunting them decades ago simply because I was too impatient and got up and moved too quickly. Nothing more exasperating than moving to a new spot and then hearing him gobble where you just came from. LOL! As I heard one old timer put it, "when you are absolutely certain beyond all doubt that he has walked off and is gone, wait 30 more minutes." LOL!

5. Camo? Anything that breaks up your outline and is suited to the woods you will be hunting. I've killed them wearing almost every pattern that exits out there. Even cheap Wal-Mart brands and old Army surplus store Tiger Stripe stuff. Being very, very, still and quiet is far more important than the type of camo you wear. Their eyes are amazing but most camo will conceal you pretty well as long as you don't move. Do wear a face mask and gloves.

6. Specific recommendations?

Chokes I like. For denser than lead stuff I like an Indian Creek Black Diamond Strike, a Pure Gold, a Rhino, a Star Dot or a Primos Jelly Head.

For lead shot I like a Kicks Gobblin Thunder

Shells. For denser than lead stuff I like Winchester Elite Extended range number 6's. There is no need to go any smaller than 6's in the denser than lead stuff. 6's will out pattern the bigger stuff and kill farther than your gun will hold a tight enough pattern to attempt a shot. The new Magnum blend stuff from Heavy 13 should be good as well.

In lead shot I like Winchester Supreme Number 5's or 6's.

Stay away from the Federal shells with the flight control wad if you are using a ported choke or one designed to slightly slow the wad as it passes through. These shells are not intended for use in these type chokes and your results will be less than satisfactory.

Good luck but be warned. Turkey hunting can become an addiction.
 
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Hevi shot is a waste of money for Turkey, IMHO, lead has a VERY similar density.

Wrong. Heavy 13 and the Winchester extended range stuff are 30% denser than lead and, just as importantly, they are over 100 times harder than lead as well.

If your gun will hold a tight enough pattern they will penetrate deep enough to kill turkeys at impressive distances. Considerably farther than lead.
 
Both of my turkey guns pattern best with the Federal Premium #5's with the Flite-control wad. It nearly doubles the # of pellets at 50 yards.

I'm one of the first to say that I don't normally wear camo when I deer hunt, but when I turkey hunt the only part of me you can see is my eyeballs.

A slate call is one of the easiest calls to start with. Work your way up to a mouth call. I like an "owl hoot" or some other locator call as well. I've always had better luck using one decoy, but I know people who take 3 or 4. I find if you put out too many you can discourage a turkey from coming in close.

Get a used turkey vest off ebay. The prices on new ones are outrageous in my opinion.
 
looking for a list of recommended equipment,

Well, ok then, now that we're in hunting forum....

-Shotgun with full, x-tra full, or ultra full choke. Some people put optics (scopes, ESDs) on their turkey guns, but it's not necessary. This will be my first year to use anything but iron sights. I'm running with a Nikon Omega 1.65-4x36mm scope on my turkey rig this spring.

-Ammo that patterns well in your gun through said choke (preferably 4, 5, or 6 shot) - shell length doesn't really matter unless you try to shoot them past 40 yards. Having said that, I have shot at them at 40-45 yards, and I use a 2 oz. 6-shot load in a 3.0" shell. I think 5 shot is perfect, and 4 shot is better than 6 for longer ranges (past 35-40 yards), and 5 or 6 shot is better for closer ranges. But any/all will work fine.

-A collapsible bipod or tripod or monopod (pole cat, steady stix, etc.) is highly recommended, for a good shot. The height needs to match your chair height.

-Some camo clothing helps - cover your hands and face with something, even if not camo. Obviously, try to match the camo to your actual hunting grounds. Mossy Oak's "Brush" is a great all-purpose camo, IMO. Leafy / 3-D camo can be a bonus, but not really necessary. Sitting still is 100 times more important than having ANY camo, let alone 3-D camo.

-Locater calls (gobbler, owl, crow - I like the plain gobble or even just a standard yelp from a loud box call for a locater; as a result, I see no need for crow or owl calls.)

-Lure calls. Box and/or push-pin and/or slate and/or mouth calls for yelps, clucks, purrs, & cutting/cackle. Practice those calls. Box and push-pin calls are the easiest to learn; slate calls the 2nd easiest and a close 2nd at that, and mouth calls the hardest, by far.) I like to have a mouth call in, and a slate & stick call in my hand. The slate call, which is the easiest to learn to sound very realistic on clucks & purrs will (hopefully) get them coming toward you. Then when you spot them or hear them within 60 yards or so, slowly put the slate call down and pick up the shotgun and get pointed in their direction, and shut up & sit still. They will probably not need any more calling because they will see your decoys, but if they see you move and start to back out, hitting a mouth call yelp without moving can sometimes give them the confidence to turn back your way.

-Decoys. This can be 1 or more. Most people put down 1, 2, or 3 decoys. They can be hens, jakes, or a combination. Usually I put down 2 decoys: One is just a hen, and one is a decoy that's made to look like a jake mounting a hen, with two heads that swivel in the breeze - it works well if a tom sees it. If I'm not going far from the pickup / camp, then I will take 2 hens and the hen/jake one. I like the decoys to be right near me and right in front of me, maybe 5 yards away or 10 yards away tops. Spread them around so that at least one can be seen by anything coming through the woods from different directions, at different angles through the trees. Get the decoys up as high as you can get them, and as uncluttered by immediately-nearby brush/grass as possible, in a slightly opened up area.

-A camo chair or turkey vest - just something to sit on and keep you comfy.

-A blind *definitely, definitely* helps to not be seen, and is highly recommended, *at least* for your initial morning setup, despite what you read above. The more movement you can hide the better. The best scenario is to figure out where they're roosting (the hard part), then figure out where the fly down area would be (easier), and then set up a blind in some trees adjacent to the flydown area with your back to the morning sun. Put your decoys out in the flydown area. Do all that and your successful hunt will be over by 7:45. :)

-Some amount of blaze orange gear (a flag or hat or whatever) to wear while just walking around, then hide each time you set up.

-The usual assortment of hunting stuff: earplugs, water bottle, knife for gutting, flashlights, compasses, etc.

Probably THE most important hunting tip is to call a moderate to heavy amount UNTIL you think one is coming closer (gobbles get louder). Once you determine that one is coming toward you, then SHUT UP and quit calling. You have to just let them come in. If they START coming in, they will CONTINUE to come in until they reach you, provided they're not hung up by a creek. So calling AFTER you know they are coming in can ONLY serve to hurt you - by making a call that sounds fake or too intense, etc., it could scare them off. You only call if you are getting NO response (no gobbles), OR one is gobbling but going AWAY from you or staying put. Once they're moving toward, you shut up and wait - they will see your decoys from a long way out and come on in even if you are silent, regardless of they they keep gobbling or not.

Another important tip: Keep your eyes open. Turkeys will come in to your calls without making ANY noise a lot of times, and you can get shot this way, so be on the lookout even if no auditory response. This happens far more likely with some combination of these things:

1. Jake groups
2. Late in the season - any male
3. Hens (you're not there to shoot a hen, but they might come in an 'call for you' after they come in, if they see your hen decoy and get jealous)
4. Later in the day (after 8:30 or 9:00 am)
5. Eastern birds
 
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You need to scout enough to get an idea of their territory. Seems like it takes a week to 10 days for them to make a loop. They are probably more predictable in the fall than spring. I see them the same places about 7-10 day intervals when I am out.
 
Well, I bought this a couple years ago for geese, but if I ever get to go turkey hunting again, this is the tool. I'll screw that turkey choke back in it for that. It's pretty killer tight with 2 ounces of six shot. :evil:

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ALL good advise, becarful though ,turkey hunting is very addictive. AS for calls check this place out, great custem calls and good folks.
www. heirloom. calls.com. think thats right.
 
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