ReadyontheRight
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I'm not sure if this has come up here yet, but what do you think? Marketing blunder of this young century?
It seems that Winchester put all their product development thought, investment, promotions and future of the plant into the very tight niche of WSM cartridges.
I don't know anyone who bought one.
Their official press releases say "An eroding demand for rifles and shotguns has caused the plant to steadily lower production and decrease the number of workers it employs." and "The problem is the overall decline in the market for rifles and shotguns made by the New Haven plant, not a loss of market share for the Winchester brand in general."
GIVE ME A BREAK!
When you only sell three basic hunting products that last for generations, with the only changes being tweaks to the consumables that go through them, your sales will eventually decline. I barely have an idea of what to do differently with a .270 vs. a 30-06...but I'm supposed to run out and buy a whole new bunch of shorter, fatter versions of already very similar cartridges?
"That looks like a FEMALE cape buffalo...better hand me the SHORT action magnum."
A "Brokeback Mountain" commemoritive Model 94 (with a little product placement ) would probably have sold more copies than all the WSM models combined.
The current crew at Winchester has been making rifles and shotguns for decades! Have they ever looked at what else their customers want or even thought about new designs since John Browning died?
Where are the Winchester CQB rifles?
Where's a Winchester M1 Garand or M1A?
Where's the police division/salesforce?
Where's the military division/salesforce?
Where are the Winchester Scout Rifles?
Where are the new Winchester lever gun designs?
Where is a breakthrough Winchester shotgun design?
Where's a nice Winchester double rifle?
Where's an every Man's Winchester bolt gun with iron sights?
Where's a nice modern Winchester rolling block that can handle high pressures?
Winchester handgun?
Where's a ground-breaking, high-capacity Winchester self-defense rifle that you can "load up on Sunday and shoot all week" compared to current designs? Do we only get that every TWO hundred years?
Granted, they did come back with a Model 70 "Pre-64" action, but finally admitting you made a HUGE mistake 40 years ago isn't exactly Marketing genius.
So...in your opinion was it...
A) An overall declining interest in rifles and shotguns or
B) Winchester's choice to squeeze just a little bit more out of the politically-correct hunting market while ignoring all other firearms markets
...that killed the "Made in USA" Winchester?
It seems that Winchester put all their product development thought, investment, promotions and future of the plant into the very tight niche of WSM cartridges.
I don't know anyone who bought one.
Their official press releases say "An eroding demand for rifles and shotguns has caused the plant to steadily lower production and decrease the number of workers it employs." and "The problem is the overall decline in the market for rifles and shotguns made by the New Haven plant, not a loss of market share for the Winchester brand in general."
GIVE ME A BREAK!
When you only sell three basic hunting products that last for generations, with the only changes being tweaks to the consumables that go through them, your sales will eventually decline. I barely have an idea of what to do differently with a .270 vs. a 30-06...but I'm supposed to run out and buy a whole new bunch of shorter, fatter versions of already very similar cartridges?
"That looks like a FEMALE cape buffalo...better hand me the SHORT action magnum."
A "Brokeback Mountain" commemoritive Model 94 (with a little product placement ) would probably have sold more copies than all the WSM models combined.
The current crew at Winchester has been making rifles and shotguns for decades! Have they ever looked at what else their customers want or even thought about new designs since John Browning died?
Where are the Winchester CQB rifles?
Where's a Winchester M1 Garand or M1A?
Where's the police division/salesforce?
Where's the military division/salesforce?
Where are the Winchester Scout Rifles?
Where are the new Winchester lever gun designs?
Where is a breakthrough Winchester shotgun design?
Where's a nice Winchester double rifle?
Where's an every Man's Winchester bolt gun with iron sights?
Where's a nice modern Winchester rolling block that can handle high pressures?
Winchester handgun?
Where's a ground-breaking, high-capacity Winchester self-defense rifle that you can "load up on Sunday and shoot all week" compared to current designs? Do we only get that every TWO hundred years?
Granted, they did come back with a Model 70 "Pre-64" action, but finally admitting you made a HUGE mistake 40 years ago isn't exactly Marketing genius.
So...in your opinion was it...
A) An overall declining interest in rifles and shotguns or
B) Winchester's choice to squeeze just a little bit more out of the politically-correct hunting market while ignoring all other firearms markets
...that killed the "Made in USA" Winchester?