Washington, D.C. "District Balks As Taxi Panel Ponders Guns For Cabbies "

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By David Nakamura
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 5, 2003; Page B01

To the short list of equipment D.C. taxi drivers are offered to protect themselves -- emergency roof light, security camera, bulletproof partition -- the city's Taxicab Commission yesterday debated adding another: guns.

The proposal, offered informally by commission member Sandra Seegars, was met immediately by equal parts ebullience and derision.

In the "it's about time" category were some drivers who say they need something more to fight back against the occasional armed passenger. On the "not in this lifetime" side was virtually everyone associated with city government.

"The proposal is nutty, and obviously, it would not be entertained seriously by any thinking person," said Tony Bullock, spokesman for Mayor Anthony A. Williams (D).

"There is no question in the universe that can be answered with more guns," said Kathy Patterson (D-Ward 3), head of the D.C. Council's Committee on the Judiciary. "The District of Columbia is clear on this: We oppose guns."

Seegars said she just wanted to provoke discussion of how to better keep the city's 6,000 taxi drivers out of harm's way.

"The safety devices we have now do not work. The 911 emergency light on top of the cab? You might as well put a flashlight up there and it's the same thing," Seegars said in an interview. "I heard the mayor's office say this is just a publicity stunt. Well, that's right -- it's a stunt to get them more protection."

About 20 drivers were in attendance as the commission debated the idea yesterday at its regular monthly meeting. They appeared divided.

On one hand, the drivers agreed that the police do not respond quickly or thoroughly to complaints of robberies or assaults. But some drivers feared that more weapons would simply cause more violence, some against fellow drivers.

Taking the floor during the spirited 45-minute debate, E.J. Chubbs, an independent driver, reminded the audience of the cab line at Reagan National Airport, where drivers often get into arguments, even fistfights, over who is going to pick up potential passengers.

"How many times have people been knocked in the head in that line? Can you imagine if we had guns?" Chubbs asked, as fellow drivers nodded and chuckled. "This is a terrible idea."

But it was not so terrible to other drivers, who recounted being robbed at gunpoint or being struck by angry or drunk passengers.

"I don't want to carry a gun. Guns scare me. Knives scare me," said Nathan Price of Yellow Cab. "But it should be an option of the driver's to protect himself if the government does not protect you."

Sgt. Joe Gentile, a D.C. police spokesman, said the department works as hard to protect cabdrivers as anyone else in the city. "We do care about every case brought to our attention," he said.

Neither the commission nor D.C. police keep specific statistics on crimes against taxi drivers, a topic that has gotten more attention since several drivers were killed or wounded in the District a few years ago. The U.S. Labor Department reported that the homicide rate for taxi drivers nationwide is higher than that for police officers, making driving a cab one of the most dangerous jobs in the country.

Some jurisdictions -- such as Boston and Miami-Dade County, Fla. -- allow taxi drivers to carry guns provided they comply with regular licensing provisions that apply to any citizen.

The Taxicab, Limousine and Paratransit Association, a national lobbying organization based in Kensington, does not take a formal position on the matter.

"The bottom line is that there's a wide variety of safety devices, but I've seen no evidence that any one device is better than another," said Alfred Lagasse, the group's executive vice president.

Two years ago, the D.C. Taxicab Commission passed a resolution requiring all taxi drivers to use one of three safety devices. The emergency roof light is the most popular because it is the cheapest option at $50 to $125, followed by the plexiglass partition ($300 to $500) and the security camera ($800), a commission spokeswoman said.

Guns, detractors argue, would be even more expensive because drivers would need to go through training and gain permits to drive into Maryland and Virginia.

At least for the foreseeable future, it seems, taxi passengers should not expect their driver to be armed.

"This administration and this city council are not about to authorize a measure of that kind," Bullock said. "We are not going to reduce handgun violence by introducing thousands of additional handguns throughout the city."


© 2003 The Washington Post Company
 
Maybe its the "Gun (Owner's - read criminal intent) Fault" -or-
Maybe it's the Money(s) fault.

Yeah, if the bad guys want the "Money" that the driver's carry, just eliminate the "Money" and poof, the reason for a robbery is thwarted.

So, maybe the city/Fed council should just subsidize ALL TAXI Companies Fares, eliminating the "Need for the Drivers to have any Money" and the problem will simply go away.

It's Free (Taxi Rides)...

Then just expand that philosophy to the Nth degree. Free stuff at the Stop and Robs, they've got no money in the till cause the city/Fed Govt. pays them for everything that is purchased. No money, no robbery. Its simple.

Oh, maybe that's not such a good idea. The gov't has to get that money from somewhere.

Maybe we don't need our tax dollars going to wipe out AIDS in Africa ($15,000,000,000.00) this year.

Or maybe we do.

Imagine allowing a stagecoach driver to carry a shotgun to ward off the "bad-guys". Never happen in THIS country boy. Or should I say, never happen in that District of Columbia.

Guns are eeeeeevil. Don't resist, give 'em your money, work for nothing and pay your bills with... Sorry, I got robbed and/or shot so I don't have anything for ya Mr. Bill Collector.

It's a sorry state of affairs in parts of this country where the "Intellectual Mindset" would simply "will away" all bad things.

Adios
 
"There is no question in the universe that can be answered with more guns," said Kathy Patterson (D-Ward 3), head of the D.C. Council's Committee on the Judiciary.

Here's one: How do I fill my gun safe? :)

Seriously, I think this proposal is too narrow. I think *everyone* who wants to carry a gun in DC should be able to. The real issue is that DC would have to open up its registration books, since I am sure there aren't too many cabbies left who had guns registered before 1976, or whenever the cutoff date was...

MJ
 
Those IDIOTAS that oppose armed cabbies should have to hustle a hack for 90 nights in DC. IF AND ONLY IF they survive will we listen to their non-reasons.

Actually, I would like to see ALL citizens armed, but one step at a time......
 
A cabbie was robbed on my street, last year I think, and it actually made the news just because it was the first time in my area that the criminals were caught on the security camera in the cab. Of course, that doesn't mean they actually identified or caught the perps, and I doubt it made the cabbie feel better after he narrowly avoided becoming perforated.
some drivers feared that more weapons would simply cause more violence, some against fellow drivers
A cab nearly ran me off the road in Crystal City one time, so I can believe that. Still, I'd like for them be able to defend themselves, especially in DC.
 
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