Washington post editorial: To Quell the Killings

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To Quell the Killings
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42238-2003Oct3.html
Saturday, October 4, 2003; Page A18

MARYLANDERS HAVE long recognized how outlandish it is to allow the marketing of military assault-style weapons that have no place in any civilized state. A decade ago Maryland banned the sale or transfer of a number of assault-style pistols; but even with a federal ban on the manufacture of 19 different models of assault weapons, creative copies of these high-powered firearms keep flooding the street markets that cater to violent criminals. The federal ban is set to expire in 11 months unless Congress acts, and some Maryland leaders -- including two top Democrats who may run against each other for their party's nomination for governor -- are united in support of a state bill to outlaw the sale or transfer of 45 models of assault-style rifles and shotguns. Their shared concern: If Congress caves in to the all-guns-are-great lobbyists and lets the limited federal protections die, Maryland ought to have an even better ban on its books. One of the weapons that would be banned, a Bushmaster semiautomatic rifle, was used in the sniper attacks in this region a year ago.

Montgomery County Executive Douglas M. Duncan and Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley have good political as well as safety reasons for backing a more inclusive ban. Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. voted as a member of Congress to overturn the federal ban on assault weapons; he prefers to echo the National Rifle Association position that stiffer sentences for gun crimes are a more effective approach. That may scare some criminals, even if it does nothing to lower the number of suicides or accidental deaths of children. But what is so essential about these weapons?

The 1994 federal ban should be extended, not ended. The 19 weapons covered are listed by name, and the provisions include a ban on "copies" or "duplicates." But state Sen. Robert J. Garagiola (D-Montgomery) and Del. Neil F. Quinter (D-Howard) fear that the federal ban may not be renewed, never mind improved. Federal uniform protection would be best, but in the meantime states are and should be enacting measures of their own. As of August 2002, seven states had some form of assault weapon ban: California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey and New York.

It isn't as if sportsmen would be denied their firearms. The federal law provides specific protection to 670 types of hunting rifles and shotguns currently being manufactured. Isn't that ample? The weapons prohibited are those with multiple assault-weapon features such as a protruding pistol grip or grenade launcher or designs for spray-firing from the hip as fast as a shooter can keep pulling the trigger. Little wonder, then, that law enforcement officials -- those who work to protect people from sniper fire or armed criminals -- support proposals to do away with assault-style weapons. How effective can homeland security measures be in a country awash with some of the most efficient firearms sought by international as well as domestic terrorists?

© 2003 The Washington Post Company
 
Someday, this country will be again divided, as it was 143 years ago. Unlike that time, this country will form lines based on ideology, and the population will move accordingly.

It will be a continent divided by those who work or want to work, and those who do not. The latter will not be allowed into the former. And neither will snivelling journalists like the above.

I have a dream, and this is it.
 
"Recreation, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right to keep and bear sporting arms shall not be infringed."

Close enough for the Washington Post.
 
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Little wonder, then, that law enforcement officials -- those who work to protect people from sniper fire or armed criminals -- support proposals to do away with assault-style weapons.


Why is it that LEOs usually support gun-control measures anyway? They use firearms as tools in their profession to defend themselves and others, yet they want to deny that right to other law-abiding citizens (as they are just citizens too).
 
Massachusetts

Really? Somebody should tell us to quit selling all those rifles.

The fact is that we have a restricted handgun market. Pre-ban rifles and hi-caps are all legit. The only problem is that some distributors are put off by the murky laws and won't ship hi-caps here. Now some distributors are refusing to ship ammo here. I can't say I blame them, the laws are as confusing as Noah's Ark in space.
 
Why is it that LEOs usually support gun-control measures anyway?

SOME LEOs like disarmed "civilians" because it makes them elite - its a power thing. MOST aren't like that but they ones that are really stand out....
 
The Post and other leftist orgs need to stop using that 'spray fire from the hip' line. It reveals that they are using the Brady Web site for 'research.' That's like relying on a prostitute or a gangster for advice on leading a Christian life.
 
Spray Fire???

If "spray fire from the hip" is such an effective means of killing, then why don't the armed forces teach that little technique?

And when has this technique been used in past shootings?

Should we ban handguns because they can be used for "spray fire from the gangsta position"?
 
they are not using the Brady Site for research

They are having these editorials and proposed laws WRITTEN by www.bradycampaign.org.

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NEIL F. QUINTER
Democrat, District 13, Howard County
Member of House of Delegates since January 8, 2003. Member, Judiciary Committee, 2003- (estates & trusts subcommittee, 2003-; family law subcommittee, 2003-).

Chief Counsel, U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein, 1995-99
 
To Devonai's point - do you think the anti's even understand their own proposals regarding "assault weapons" ??? If they did then the reference to MA would obviously be a mistake.

. . .or would that be just more fraudulent reporting???
 
The title "To Quell the Killings" gives away the underlying premise upon which we disagree with gun control proponents: that killing is always bad. Anyone who carries a firearm for defense has already tacitly disagreed with that premise.
 
If "spray fire from the hip" is such an effective means of killing, then why don't the armed forces teach that little technique?

You are making way too much sense. Report to room 101.

military assault-style weapons that have no place in any civilized state

Our Swiss friends deserve an apology.

One of the weapons that would be banned, a Bushmaster semiautomatic rifle, was used in the sniper attacks in this region a year ago.


It isn't as if sportsmen would be denied their firearms.

Hunting and sporting firearms can kill you just as dead as an "assault weapon".

creative copies of these high-powered firearms keep flooding the street

In other words, you admit that there is no difference between the banned guns and the non-banned guns. And I am so sick of that phrase "flooding the street".

Idiots.
 
In other words, you admit that there is no difference between the banned guns and the non-banned guns. And I am so sick of that phrase "flooding the street".

How will the blissninnies respond when my evil assault SUV is swept off the road in one of these dangerous "street flooding" episodes.

I suppose they'll say, for once, 2 wrongs do make a right...

:rolleyes:
 
Of course, the DC sniper could have done just as well with a New England Handi Rifle. That must be an assault rifle, too!
 
How effective can homeland security measures be in a country awash with some of the most efficient firearms sought by international as well as domestic terrorists?
AH the classic terrorists are flocking to America to buy expensive semi-auto versions of the cheaper, genuine fully automatic versions they have at home. What idiots.
 
Anybody else see the irony in the fact that "the terrorists" may be the one thing that both sides can use?

Us: We need these weapons to defend ourselves from terrorists.

Them: These weapons will fall into the hands of the terrorists.

No doubt which side I am on, just thought of the contrast, I guess!:D
 
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