Washington State expands reciprocity...

[Bobarino]

SB 5083

AN ACT Relating to recognizing concealed weapon licenses issued by
other states; and adding a new section to chapter 9.41 RCW.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON:

{+ NEW SECTION. +} Sec. 1. A new section is added to chapter 9.41
RCW to read as follows:
(1)(a) A person licensed to carry a handgun in a state the laws of
which recognize and give effect in that state to a concealed pistol
license issued under the laws of the state of Washington is authorized
to carry a pistol in this state if:
(i) The licensing state does not issue concealed pistol licenses to
persons under twenty-one years of age; and
(ii) The licensing state requires mandatory background checks for
all persons who apply for a concealed pistol license.
(b) This section applies to a license holder from another state
only while the license holder is not a resident of this state. A
license holder from another state must carry the handgun in compliance
with the laws of this state.
(2) The attorney general shall periodically publish a list of
states the laws of which recognize and give effect in that state to a
concealed pistol license issued under the laws of the state of
Washington.

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passed in the senate 48-0 , 1 excused. now in the house judiciary.

this should open the door for other states to recognize Washington permits also. another step in the right direction. just excellent.

Bobby

 

[Swamprabbit]

Sounds like Washington and Kentucky now have something in common!

 

[SAG0282]

Good to hear......I always thought it was unfair that I could carry in several other states while only Washingtonians could carry concealed here.

 

[Chupacabra]

Good news!

 

[commygun]

And Locke will dutifully veto it like the steaming pile of liberal kalakala
that he is.

 

[c_yeager]

And Locke will dutifully veto it like the steaming pile of liberal kalakala

Beat me to it.

 

[HBK]

Now if it would only recognize class III stuff...
I think you guys are right, though. Gary POS Locke will veto it like the liberal sack of pig crap he is.

 

[Lupine]

My letter of the week

Dear Governor Locke:

I'm writing to urge you to withhold the veto of SB 5083, an act relating to recognizing concealed weapon licenses issued by
other states; and adding a new section to chapter 9.41 RCW.

I am a law-abiding citizen of Oregon, and in addition to skills I've developed in unarmed self-defense, I hold a valid Concealed Handgun License issued by Multnomah County. I applied for my license and participated in voluntary training courses because as a woman who travels with expensive photography gear, and as a citizen who fishes, hikes, camps and travels alone out of necessity--or with a small family while on vacation--I have firsthand experience of having had to fend off attackers while unarmed and outnumbered.

Friends ask me if I've spent much time in your beautiful state. It got me thinking about why I have not. While I can go through the trouble of applying for a concealed handgun permit by visiting the Clark County Sheriff's Department, filling out an application and paying a fee--and perhaps I will if you don't veto this act--I know there are many more people who take self-defense seriously and responsibly who will think more highly of Washington as a destination for personal or commercial business if this act passes and their own state permits are recognized by your government.

Thank you for your attention.

Sincerely,

(Lupine's bespectacled and geeky alter ego)

 

[BAB]

Probably will be vetoed, but if it passes in the House by a margin anywhere near that of its Senate passage (48 to ZERO!), I'd like to think the prospect of a veto override would be rather bright. Is there any reason for me to think otherwise?

 

[Henry Bowman]

The only valid oppositions to this bill are that:

1) It will reduce income to the state for issuance of non-resident permits; and

2) It would allow some 18- 20 year olds who are licensed in a few states (like Indiana) to carry in WA.

Any other opposition is without basis in fact and is political.

Edited to add: After further review of the bill, reason (2) is not valid either. It would not recognize ANY permits from states (such as IN) that issue to 18-20 year olds.

 

[c_yeager]

If nothing else it at least shows that the political climate in the State is becoming more favorable to RKBA legislation.

 

[CleverNickname]

1) It will reduce income to the state for issuance of non-resident permits

Of course, you also have to consider that WA residents also have to spend money to get out-of-state permits to carry anywhere else. If they didn't have to do that, they'd save money and would be free to put that money back in the local economy, producing more tax revenue.

 

[Langenator]

Definitely a step in the right direction, especially if the state House and the Gov pass it as well.

Minor quibble: according to Packing.org, only 11 states recognize permits from WA, and two of those are AK and VT. I'm willing to wager that most of the rest are states that recognize any other state's permit. But according to part 1(a) of the law, only permits from those other 11 states (maybe 10-does VT even issue permits?) would be valid in WA.

On the good side, it may soon be 12-a law has been proposed here in SC that would recognize CCW permits from any other state, not just those whose requirements "meet or exceed those of SC."

 

[priv8ter]

Actually...

Mr Bowman said:

2) It would allow some 18- 20 year olds who are licensed in a few states (like Indiana) to carry in WA.

Not the way I read it...the proposed law states that reciprocity would only be granted on certain conditions.

One of those conditions, per sub-paragraph (1)(a)(i) is that the licensing state does not issue concealed pistol licenses to persons under 21 years of age.

So...the way I read, Indiana would not be a state that Washington would grant reciprocity...

but, I'm not a lawyer, so maybe I read it wrong.

greg

 

[George S.]

This bill (SB5083) was originally introduced in the Regular session a year ago It was passed in the Senate by a 49-0 vote. Nothing happened until the Special Session in June when it was reintroduced.

It appears that it's going thru the same sort of political inaction like a year ago. http://www.leg.wa.gov/wsladm/billinfo1/dspBillSummary.cfm?billnumber=5083

Also, a compainion bill was introduced in the WA House (HB1810) that had the same language. It apparently never got any action, being referred to the House Judiciary Committee and stalled in the Regular Session of 2003 and reintroduced in the Special Session and again for the 2004 Regular Session. http://www.leg.wa.gov/wsladm/billinfo1/dspBillSummary.cfm?billnumber=1810

It's really too bad that my state Legislature can't get off their collective (liberal) butts and get this passed. Unfortunately, Governor Gary Locke is a lame duck and is a liberal-type and he would probably not sign the bill anyway. It's sort of embarrasing that we make it relatively easy to get a CCW license (WA is a shall-issue state) and WA onlt recognizes 11 other states. A lot of states that issue a CCW only after required training and classroom activity are not recognized. Go figure!

 

[Gray Peterson]

I don't believe there's going to be political inaction this time around. Remember Joe Waldron's comments.

Washington has been a shall-issue state since 1961. They were the originators of shall-issue CCW.