Webley MKIV for $98

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Just got a Webley MkIV and after two hours of "restoring", its a gem. Can wait to get a 200 grain bullet mold and get to shooting.:)
 
Suggest that you slug the barrel first. The groove diameters tend to be in the neighborhood of 0.359-0.360". Many moulds do cast bullets this big.

Bob
 
BTW 38 special cases (even empty) WILL NOT chamber in the 38 S&W Webley. I already have 100 38 S&W rounds loaded and 50 empties. Now all I need is a source for a .358 diameter, 200 grain lead bullet mold. Lee doesn't make one anymore for the 35 Remington which would have been perfect.

I'm watching ZULU on AMC, I'm helping out with my Webley and I think WE can hold-on.:D
 

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Sounds like a very good deal indeed ..... my old one from way back ... which was Australian in origin, was I guess pretty much a copy ... it was a fun gun to shoot but .... pocket pistol it was not!!

So many sharp edges .... and that wierd safety ... :p

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Can I ask where you got it, and if there are any more at that price?
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No, its really a fluke deal. The vendor had tired of trying to sell it at previous shows for $200, $175, $150 and he just gave up. I even tried to get him to knock some off the $98, hence his story. The MKIV's can be had for $200+/- but it always seems the guns everyone else can find by the bucket full, takes me years to find at the "going" price. At the same show I saw an excellent MKVI in original .455 caliber for $450 although I would prefere the converted .45ACP versions.

Some guns seem harder to locate than others, I've left Wanted ads at gun ranges asking for Hakims, Weblys, and FN49s and have even placed ads in trading post newpapers, NEVER a response. Other places in the country, people trip over the guns I want, I live in the greater Pittsburgh area. Go figure.

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Ive never even seen a Webley or Enfield, but I have always wanted one, espe. the .45ACP conversions.
 
I paid $95 for my Enfield No2 Mk1 .380 (.38/200)....it had cracked grips and was missing the stirrup latch spring;I got the spring through Numrich ($14) and made my own set of grips for $5 out of a nice block of walnut.
It could use a paintjob,but it's a great shooter.:)
 

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Just put in an order for a 195 grain double cavity mold in .358. I'm going to load up my S&W and S&W Special. I'll see if the Brits were onto something, a heavy slow moving bullet. I'm looking for volunteers.:D
 
I have been looking for such a deal on a Webley MkIV. A couple of years ago I found a beautifully refinished Mauser "Red 9" broomhandle for $325 (which is less than the refinishing costs) and a Webley MkVI for $275 at the same gun show. I got them both. I would still like a 38 cal. to go with the 45. My MkVI is all matching. I am looking for an extra cylinder for it so I can have the cylinder chambers reamed out straight at the case diameter. That way you can load 410 shotgun shells one at a time and cure everything from snakes to rats to birds without having to get within striking distance. There are some BIG rattlers and copperheads around here that you don't want to be within hoe handle distance of and which a 45ACP shot shell may not take care of. I had a Webley reamed out like that back in the 80's, but I traded it -sigh. It was a hoot to shoot with the 410's, although accuracy suffered a bit with the 45ACP loads. If I get 2 cylinders, I figure I will get the best of both worlds. I may even get a third cylinder in the original 455 just for kicks. By the way, I have the Pritchard bayonet for the Webley MkVI. Now if I can only find a shoulder stock at a reasonable price, the set will be complete.

Roll Tide

telewinz, Great find on the 38!
 
I bow to your expertise on Webleys. I'd love to pickup a MKVI for around $275, with half-moon clips they are real fast to reload.
 
I've got both the MKIV and MKVI, paid $125 for the MKIV, $250 for the MKVI. Just kept on looking till I found them. I shoot the MKVI in .45 acp more than the .38sw, is a fairly accurate gun. The .38 SW weren't readily available here, I had some .357 nickel brass that was really hard to resize so I took a dremel tool and cut them down to .38SW length, loaded them up with 3.5g of Unique and a 140g lead bullet. Shoot very well. They both are fun, interesting, a challenge to disassemble & put back together. Lots of history in them.

rk
 
I'm a Lucky Man

My wife bought me a Webley Mk VI for Christmas. It has lost most the blueing (maybe 5% left), is in superb mechanical condition, and has had the cylander ground to accept .45 ACP with moon clips (same ones S&W produces for their .45ACP revos). Oh, and the DA trigger pull is to die for. S&W Perf center has nuthin' on this old gal!

I'm going to wait until I can load lead, low-pressure .45ACP before I shoot it. FMJ can wear out the bbl, it is said, because it was designed to shoot LRN .455 Webley at a lower pressure than .45ACP. I hear there is a mold out for the 260gr LRN, hollow base bullet.

If I saw an old Enfield in .38S&W for $100, I surely would purchase. The Limeys knew how to make a fighting revolver.
 
I have a Webley in .455.
What a pea shooter. It has almost no recoil at all. Or velocity.
I bought the canvas holster and a lanyard to go with it. The guys at the Vintage Bolt Action Rifle match were green with envy.

" I hear there is a mold out for the 260gr LRN, hollow base bullet."
Yeah, I belive that RCBS makes one. I bought my bullets from The Old Western Scrounger (I believe). He said he stocked the mold also but it is very expensive (for a mold).
 
Hey, a Webley thread.....although, I'm afraid I got ya beat on price. Free from a good friend of the family:cool:

This one is in .455
 
38/200

A couple of years ago I did some tinkering with .38 S&W/38 200 loadings.

I dug through my old Ideal (Lyman) Manuals from the 30s and 40s and started from there.

First problem was bullets of .360 +/- diameter. Unable to find any that size, I used some 158 gr. LFP (Cowboy action type) bullets I had lying around... I was amazed to find they were every bit as accurate (that is to say not bad at all) as the factory ammo.

I have a number of revolvers in this caliber, including some S&W M&P revolvers (a pre WW II Commercial, a LL 38/200 5", and BPC 6" commercial purchase. In additon, I have an old H&R and two Colt's Police Positives.

When I first worked up loads, I assumed S&W just used .357 diameter barrels to fill the British orders. I was surprised to find the loads worked equally well in the pre WWII Colt's and the H&R.

Later on I developed some loads using commercially cast 190 gr. LFP bullets. Accuracy is also good there.

Try the .357 bullest.. they may work fine for you too.

FWIW

Chuck
 
Thought I would post some pics of my MKVI and the bayonet for those who ahve never seen one with the bayonet.

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As far as reloading for your wonderful find...Because of bore diameter..You might try and find some cast bullets for the Makarov pistol..They would be on the light side( 95- 105 grains) but would be just slightly over sized for your application.

Loaded for plinking they might work out fine.

Just my two cents

Be safe.:cool:
 
My 195 grain bullet mold arrived yesterday. In the past I have shot 158gr .358 diameter lead buttlets in my MKIV and still experienced excellent accuracy. There doesn't seem too be too big a difference in bullet impact between the 158 and the 200 grain bullets. I'm just looking for that magical "keyholing" that made the 380/200 such a manstopper. The same bullet should have the same effect in the 38 Special also.
 
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