Part of the issue with pistol caliber carbines is, one generally shoots them at a distances greater than most folks shoot their handguns. Those slight differences in POI over POA is much less @ 20 yards than it is @ 100. To me, my handgun caliber carbines(both the levers in .357 and .44 and my 77/44) have recoil with hunting type loads that are not a detriment to pleasant shooting. Once I find a good accurate hunting load, I only download it slightly for everyday range shooting. That way I do not have to change my sights or scope from my 100yard POI to still hit targets consistently @ 40. Going from full bore magnum type loads to mouse fart loads in my handgun caliber carbines tends to change(for me anyway) POI enough that I feel obligated to change the sights/scope....and I don't like doing that, especially just to save a few cents per round on powder cost. The coupla dollars more per range day shooting hunting type loads, is not anymore than the cost of ammo to resight the guns for hunting.....IMHO. The exception is my .357 lever. I have some reduced 125gr projectile loads that shoot pretty close to the same POI as my 158 gr hunting type loads. Thus, for my grandkids(5/7/10) I make loads that they can shoot all day. I was told by an reloading mentor years ago that to make sure I don't stick a bullet in my carbines, that I always use a published load recipe that gives more than 850fps in a revolver. Has always worked for me. I also tend to stick with jacketed bullets for the carbines that share ammo with their revolver counterparts, since the long guns spec differently that the handguns. Ain't really found a lead load that shoots as well as jacketed in the 77/44 anyway.