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weird slug-like action with FED 133 00B & M1

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silverlance

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my shotgun love is a benellli m1s90. hurts me every time i use it, but it is the smoothest, most accurate and sleek weapon I have ever owned (including AR15, etc).

Although I've had it for a few months already, I haven't had many opportunities to practice with it since I've been working on my first SKS project. Yesterday, I went to Burro Canyon in Los Angeles county and brought some fed 133 LE 00b with me. I have 500 rounds of this rather expensive urban low-recoil load.

The last time I fired my benelli with fed 133, I noticed that there were some holes on the paper that simply didn't corespond with buckshot. big, round, holes that were waay off center and had no patterning at all. I had dismissed it as compacted buckshot, and thought no more of it as the majority of the rounds blew away the target soon afterward (i practice with all my HD guns at distances of no more than 25 feet, often much less).

Yesterday, however, I discovered what was causing those strange holes.

At a line break halfway through my gun session (my gf and i spent all sunday at the range and had a picnic halfway through), Miss G and I went over to the target to ogle the big gaping holes. Imagine my surprise when i discovered a 1.5 inch long piece of plastic tube, one end sealed and the other end busted open like a bamboo stick smashed into the ground, protruding from one of the big holes!!

apparently, these plastic pieces had been coming out along with the shot and keeping all the shot together in one big slug and spinning wilding off-center as well.

this, however, was the exception, and not the rule. usually, all the pellets went dead center. i would say that roughly 1 out of every five rounds did this plastic tube thing.

now, i'm not stupid, so i think it's probably wadding. but i KNOW this isn't supposed to happen. so:

1: am i shooting too close? does it need time to spread out? (probably unlikely)

2: do i need to remove my choke? i have IIRC IC choke or something like that. i've been told not to remove the choke because the threads will get damaged, and that the choke really doesn't make much difference as to whether the round will come out or not, just in spreading.

3. are these defective rounds? are they unsafe?

4. is there something wrong with my new shotgun?

anyhow, any help would be greatly appreciated.

ps: does anybody have accessories on their m1? i dont' want to add much, just a cheek rest and maybe a buttsock shell holder, but mainly just the cheek rest as the recoil is killing my zygomatic arch.
 
The plastic pieces are indeed the wads from your shotshells. They keep the powder and shot seperate and some are designed to protect the shot from the bore (and sometimes the other way around). They can travel 50 feet downrange and may make holes in your targets. It is to be expected.

David
 
Nothing unusual here at all. The attached image might help you to better understand how the wad works [not sure where to give credit for that photo].

This issue was driven home to me at a shotgun class during a 'hostage' drill. On one run, a classmate perfectly perforated the 'shoot' target with three or four pellets of 00 - - and sent the shot cup through the face of the 'no shoot' [this was, of course, throught no fault of the shooter].

Certainly something to keep in mind when considering the shotgun for things like home defense.
 

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In some of the newest police duty shot the wadding is not pre-cut, and is intended to keep the shot together as long as possible, maintaining the shot on target out to 40 yards. If it really bugs you use plywood backers for your targets and the wads will bounce off. ;)
 
One thing to remember is that wads are NOT aerodynamic, and they can end up all over the place. I saw a couple guys at the range who were getting quite concerned that the "big hole" in their targets (@ 15 yards IIRC) wasn't centered in their pattern. Also, when shooting clay targets, some folks will get hung up on watching the wad and think that it bears close relation to where their shot went (hint: very often it doesn't).

One of the coolest things I've seen was during a sporting clays league last year. My wife shot at and missed a low going-away target. At a distance of about 35 yards, the wad actually landed on top of the clay and bounced off the dome.

She turned, grinned and said "I meant to do that." :D
 
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