Western Marshall

[lloveless]

Made by JP Sauer and Sohn. Imported by Hawes in California. Anyone have a first hand report on these? I just bought one with a 6.5 inch barrel in .44 mag. I know they don't have a hammer block so I'll be carrying it with only 5. I thought I'd probably only shoot hot .44 specials in it. I'll shoot it tomorrow.
Thanks,
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[gunner69]

If its made in Germany it has been proofed extensively. You should be able to shoot full powered .44 mags in it.

 

[Fanky]

I've run factory .44 Mag ammo through mine, but most of the time I just shoot 240 grain SWC's over a medium load of Trail Boss. I definitely wouldn't hot-rod it like some of the other 44's out there, but they are fairly solid guns.

 

[BCCL]

My first Single Action was a Hawes Western Marshall in .357 magnum, great gun. Enjoy your .44!!

 

[bwdilli]

I've got one. It's a decent shooter. Wouldn't hesitate to pick another up for the right price. What price point are you at on this?

 

[iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns]

My first non-percussion single-actions were also a pair of J.P. Sauer & Sohn SAA clones, in .45lc and .22
The .45 has "Texas Marshal" stamped on the bbl
They are so fun, I'll never get rid of 'em! Does anyone else's have a very light trigger? Both of mine do, the .45 has what I'd call a hair-trigger. I use it extra-carefully for recreational purposes only.




I know I had a tough time finding history on them after I bought them, it was a one-time chance and I do not regret buying them without knowing much about them. I posted them on flickr, and another member made this comment about them a few years ago, copied and pasted as is:

The Sauer single action revolvers were made by J.P. Sauer & Sohn of Eckernförde, Germany. Sauer had a deal with Colt to produce replicas of the Colt Single Action Army revolver in Germany and Colt got the marketing rights to the Sauer hunting rifles in the US at that time. Sold as the Colt Sauer rifle.

This is the company that was later bought by a Swiss company of the name SIG in the mid 70's and produced pistol under the SIG Sauer name.

Hawes was a US importer of several different European made guns and was even one of the early importers of SIG Sauer pistols before SIGarms USA was set up in Virgina as the US importation operation of SIG. SIGarms later moved to Exeter, NH where they now manufacture SIG Sauer pistols too.

There are also some Double action Sauer pistols in at least .38 special, .44 magnum, .357 magnum, and .22LR. These Sauer double action revolvers were very similar in design to Smith and Wesson revolvers.

 

[OARNGESI]

i got one in 357 i really like

 

[musicman10_1]

I have a Hawes Montana Marshall and it is a nice revolver. I don't like to shoot hot magnum rounds out of it because the grip is punishing under heavy recoil. 44 Specials, however, are a ton of fun to shoot.

 

[roboink]

I have a Hawes Western Marshall in .44 mag. I found at a local hardware/gun shop with a Ruger single six in .22/.22 mag for $300.00. I have since had Bob Munden do a trigger job on it before he passed away and Chris at Chisel & Plane workshop making some Munden recoil grips for it.

 

[BobWright]

Here is my Hy Hunter Western Six Shooter in .357 Magnum. This gun, made by J.P. Sauer & Sohn or Suhl, Germany, is the forerunner of the Hawes.



This in original condition. It is a project gun. In its current condition. The backstrap is from a Hawes Western Marshal.


Bob Wright

 

[rswartsell]

J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Suhl Germany is a better than reputable producer dating all the way back to 1751. The fact that I have relatives that trace back to this family may have some influence on my recommendation of the brand, but I am hardly alone. They never produced junk. Their forays into the American market with SAA clones was never ballyhooed, but throughout their history they are respected in Europe as a top notch gun crafter.

 

[CraigC]

The J.P. Sauer's are good guns. Slightly scaled up from a Colt SAA for a proper .44Mag frame. Although I wouldn't want to shoot a lot of heavy loads with the Navy grip.

 

[GBExpat]

My first Single Action was a Hawes Western Marshall in .357 magnum, great gun. Enjoy your .44!!

What BCCL said. I got my ,357 Hawes (J.P.Sauer & Sohn) Western Marshall from Herters in the late '60s. I still have it and shoot it periodically.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

My stepdad had a J.P. Sauer & Sohn .44 Mag SAA clone revolver in the 1970s. Very well made gun. Perhaps not as robust as a Ruger .44 Mag but that is a high standard to match.

And just to be cranky, it is Marshal with one "l" as in Marshal Raylan Givens (job description), not Marshall with two "l"s as in David Marshall Williams (given name).

 

[dastardly-D]

I bought a Hawes Western Marshall new in 1969 or 70 for $99. It was a real good looking revolver with red cherry grips. If you didn't hold on tightly, it would slip in your grip and the hammer would give your thumb a good bite. It was accurate enough too, the pull must only have been two or three pounds. How much are they going for now, I wish I still had my old one ?

 

[el indio]

I recently bought a 44 Hawes. I haven't taken it out and shot it yet. I gave a little over $300.00 for it. My buddy said it was a good deal.

 

[GBExpat]

And just to be cranky, it is Marshal with one "l"

WOW. Thanks for that ... seriously! I am stunned that I did not realize that.

Even though I have rarely come across that word in my lifetime, just recently I did a new, full, Excel spreadsheet inventory of my firearms.

On the barrel of that piece I read "Marshal" and my brain automatically changed it to "Marshall".

I should have immediately discerned the diff when I saw it on the barrel with the single "l".

<shaking my head> Perhaps just another gift of O-L-D.

And to think that one of my nicknames in school was Webster ... and, no, that time long pre-dated the TV show with the little black kid of the same name. I got my nickname from my voracious appetite for reading books ... and always having a dictionary with me while doing so in order to quickly understand any new words.

 

[srtolly]

I have a .357 that was rode hard and put away wet. Very light trigger, pretty accurate. I use full power magnum loads often and put a couple hundred rounds through it a year.