Wet Tumbling with SS media - The How and the Why.

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Last year, I took on a contract to process brass for a well-known firearms businessman down on Long Island. He buys the brass from a local commercial firing range, separates the .30-06, .308, and .30 Carbine brass, and sends it to me. I have been cleaning it with my vibratory tumblers using crushed walnut fortified with a capful of Nu Finish and a dash of mineral spirits. I then take my percentage of the total brass I received as payment and then fully process the remaining brass and send it back to him. A couple months ago, he asked me if I could tumble the brass longer to make it look better. I told him that tumbling for a few more hours wasn’t going to do much for the brass, but there was a better way; wet tumbling with stainless steel media. However, I explained that for volume brass cleaning, the equipment would be expensive, as the cheaper units only held a couple pounds of brass. I researched this extensively, and finally decided to buy the Frankford Arsenal Platinum Series Rotary Tumbler.
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This tumbler will handle 30 pounds, and with the drum weighing 3 pounds, this gives you a drum capacity of 27 pounds. While the directions say to use 1 gallon of water (8.3 pounds) and 5 pounds of SS media (which comes with the tumbler), my testing says there is a better way. The problem with their directions is, the ratio of brass to media is too high. Using their directions, you can load up to 13.5 pound of brass in the drum without exceeding the tumbler capacity. This is a ratio of brass to media of greater than 2.5 to 1. What you want is something close to 1 to 1. There is no benefit to adding more water (it’s heavy and does nothing for you), but there is a big advantage in having your tumbler clean faster and better by increasing the amount of stainless steel media. I settled on 8 pounds of media, which allows me to use up to 10.5 pounds of brass, which is much closer to the 1 to 1 ratio. The tumbler comes with a couple of packets of cleaning solution, but the thing to use is 1 tablespoon of Dawn dishwashing detergent and ¼ teaspoon of Lemi Shine. Very economical and does a great job.

In addition to getting more SS media, there are several other pieces of kit that are really necessary. One is a couple of 5 gallon pails; and the other is a media transfer magnet.
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These are very inexpensive ($7 - $12), and will save you a lot of time and grief. A media separator is also nice for getting out the media that like to hide inside of some cases, but you can live without one. I use the same one I use for dry media from my vibratory tumbler. So, the question is: Is it worth the expense (about $225 for tumbler, additional media, and magnet - when on sale at Amazon with free shipping)? Most definitely!!!
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P.S. – If any of you guys need some nice once-fired .30-06 or .30 Carbine brass, please contact me.
 
If you want a REALLY high capacity tumbler for stainless stell media, get a cement mixer.

The funny thing about those stainless steel pins; no matter how meticulous I am, I always seem to drop one or two on the floor or some place they don't belong.
 
I picked up the same unit after reading so many positive comments and videos on youtube about the FA tumbler. I haven't had a chance to use it yet since I don't have enough used brass accumulated to tumble by any means. Can't wait to give it a "spin".
 
The funny thing about those stainless steel pins; no matter how meticulous I am, I always seem to drop one or two on the floor or some place they don't belong.

Yeah, I bought an extra couple of pounds to be used to replace my gradual loss of pins. Every once in a while I add a "pinch" of pins to the drum.

Don
 
I have one coming in tomorrow. Looking forward to trying it out.
 
The SS media system is great. Costly for me since had to have this added to the basement. Not a good idea to carry the drum upstairs to the laundry room sink:

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The SS media system is great. Costly for me since had to have this added to the basement. Not a good idea to carry the drum upstairs to the laundry room sink:
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Looks like the utility sink in my basement. Never used it in 23 years, until I started wet tumbling.

Don
 
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Looks like the utility sink in my basement. Never used it in 23 years, until I started wet tumbling.

Don

Thanks for the laugh. When you have horses and it is zero degrees out, one needs someplace to clean off without using the hose out of doors.:)

Our utility sink gets used alot even before wet tumbling entered the scene.

The media separator looks interesting. Should be a useful addition towet tumbling. Unfortunately it is out of stock at Midway at the moment.
 
Thanks for the laugh. When you have horses and it is zero degrees out, one needs someplace to clean off without using the hose out of doors.:)

Our utility sink gets used alot even before wet tumbling entered the scene.

The media separator looks interesting. Should be a useful addition towet tumbling. Unfortunately it is out of stock at Midway at the moment.

Im not a huge fan of the Frankfort separator, SSTL media hangs in it too easily. Ive found this to work really well:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008B0T5Z2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
I use the RCBS separator, but it does sag under the weight more than I like. The Dillon large separator might be in my future, or I might just make something.
 
I use the RCBS separator, but it does sag under the weight more than I like. The Dillon large separator might be in my future, or I might just make something.
Use this device, and agree with your comments. I will look at the Dillon unit.

Russellc
 
Thanks for the laugh. When you have horses and it is zero degrees out, one needs someplace to clean off without using the hose out of doors.:)

Our utility sink gets used alot even before wet tumbling entered the scene.

The media separator looks interesting. Should be a useful addition towet tumbling. Unfortunately it is out of stock at Midway at the moment.
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I find the STM separator works much better than I expected. Spin it with a good amount of speed then stop hard and reverse and repeat. No pins left in brass! The hinges are a bit weak but it hasn't broken.
 
I just bought 650 pieces of 308 brass that were wet tumbled with stainless steel media. Matter of fact the little mail truck dropped it off a few hours ago. Bought the stuff from some guy named Don who goes by USSR on a gun forum. The brass was immaculate and I was not only very, very pleased with the brass but the price. Even the primer pockets were immaculate.

I have dry tumbled with dry media my entire life and never saw a need to really move to wet tumbling, till now anyway. :) Maybe the time has come to buy a wet tumbler or roll my own.

Thanks Again Don
Ron
 
^Use some of that brass before you decide. I bought wet tumbled brass before. After sizing and flaring (and galling), I decided I'd rather have dry tumbled brass.
 
Can't see how you had troubles with SS tumbled brass, it comes out just like factory new.

Maybe you have never used factory new brass.
 
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