What 1911 comes with these options?

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I want my next gun to be a 1911, but it's hard to narrow down the choices.

Can you guys recommend me some 1911 guns with these options?

- full-size
- beavertail grip safety
- front strap checkering
- ambi safety
- preferably less than 900
- back strap checkering not necessary, but a good option to add.
- finish (I'll take a look at all of the options and then narrow down the choices.

I've looked at some guns and Kimber seems to be out of the running because they don't come with ambi safeties except for their Tactical model, but I don't want an aluminum frame 1911.

I can't get my hands on a Taurus around Los Angeles, so that's no good. I want to be able to at least see the gun up close and fondle the goods.

Thanks.
 
Dan Wesson offers two models that each miss a couple of your criteria (Pointman - 5" - no front strap checkering, no ambi safety stock; Commander Bobtail - 4.25", no ambi safety).

The safety may be a deal breaker with a lot of production guns - you might want to look into buying one aftermarket and having a smith put it on for you.
 
I know, the ambi safety killed me on my first gun purchase. (I went with the Browning Hi-Power)

I want to keep costs low, so I don't really want to go with the gunsmith option. (BTW, I don't want to go to some unknown gunsmith and have him mess around with the gun. And any well-known gunsmiths are usually pricey.)

So far, the Springfield and Smith and Wesson appear to be my only options.

Smith and Wesson's website doesn't appear to be noob-friendly. Their website has their guns priced above $1000, but my local gunshop has several S&W guns for less than that.
 
There aren't many guns available in California with frontstrap checkering for under $900.

The closest would be Kimber's TLE II, but I believe that only comes with a single sided safety. But you can change it out for an ambi safety easily. It'll be around your $900 mark, but most likely a little more.

I believe the Springfield Loaded fits your criteria, with the ambi safety, but no fronstrap checkering. Skateboard tape fixes that.

Or.... there is the Les Baer Custom Carry that fits your criteria, but it's way more than $900.
 
What if I can pay more than 900? Up to 1300?

What are some options out there?
 
At $1,300.00 the world is yours!

At $1,300.00 the world is yours! There are several 1911s in that range. However, they do not all feel the same...handle and fire a few. Take the brand that feels best. While I am no longer a great Kimber fan, their grips are excellent. Too, the Colts are excellent. Simply be careful that you do not over pay for name. Determine your purpose for the pistol. If for CCW or for competition can make a considerable difference. If you want an ambi-safety you can have it added, as well as any other option.

Doc2005
 
Gun values, like water, seek their own level.

Unfortunately, the costs of making a high quality, all metal handgun of the 1911 design . . . and have it be both very accurate AND very dependable force the price up above $ 1,000. That's just the way it is, and gun sellers know what they are worth. Plus, the markup on guns isn't great to begin with.

Here are several suggestions to consider:

1. A QUALITY, USED GUN

Start attending IDPA, IPSC and other sanctioned handgun events in your geographic area and let shooters know you are looking for a good used gun that fits your specifications.

I guarantee you that someone there is eyeing yet another high-dollar gun and is thus ready to part with a great used gun of top quality. Just make sure it isn't worn-out and that it functions really well. Other serious shooters there can help you make this call, and most competitors wouldn't think of cheating you either. Not being retailers, but simply shooters, most guys love helping others get good stuff at decent prices . . . and it helps them get their new dream gun too!


2. START WITH QUALITY AND FEATURES . . .

Hold off and save the money to get the gun you want new! If you already have most of the money now anyway, I assure you that you'll find a way to save the rest faster than you can imagine.

Go with QUALITY . . . not features!!! Once you find the quality product you want, THEN load it with the features you want. Don't buy a low-end jam-o-matic loaded with lots of features yet it isn't reliable or accurate.


3. GET THE QUALITY BRAND BUT INITIALLY LEAVE OFF A FEW FRILLS . . .

Go with a quality handgun that lacks a couple of the features you want, then add them later. Ambi-safeties are one of those things. I'm left handed and so I "need/want" an ambidexterous safety but frankly, unless I was shooting competitions, I COULD manipulate the left side safety fairly quickly with my right hand as I brought the weapon up to point. Later, I could add the ambi-safety. It is NOT a difficult job to do or to have done on a 1911!

SKIP THE CHECKERING . . . Cut checkering is a nice LOOKING feature, and I currently have it on my Kimber CDP Ultra .45 auto used for concealment. HOWEVER . . . skateboard tape applied to the same area does just as good a job, and that's what I use on my full-size competition .45. Hand checkering is EXPENSIVE but does nothing for the function of the gun that skateboard tape doesn't do for a couple of bucks in material!

Hope this helps. Here are the main things you REALLY need:

1. It HAS to go "BANG" every time!

2. It HAS to be accurate, and for this to happen . . .

3. It HAS to have a great trigger pull. Finally, if you are left handed . . .

4. It HAS to have an ambidexterous safety.

New guns this reliable, near or at your price range, would probably include:

Kimber, Colt, S&W and Dan Wesson. I'm leaving a lot of other brands out for various reasons.

Finally, budget for at least 250-500 rounds of cheap but new ammunition. I wouldn't trust my life to ANY automatic until it could digest this amount of ammo without jamming.
 
Are you left handed? If not then there is no need for an ambi-safety. I use stair tape on my 1911s like others have mentioned.
A basic Kimber for $629 is hard to beat. OTOH the RIA Tactical 1911 is a pretty darn good gun for the money - $400. I have about 1,000 rounds through mine now without any issues. It comes with a good beavertail GS and ambi-safety. I don't worry too much about the finish. My kydex holsters eat the finish anyway.
Adding an ambi-safety to a 1911 takes about 5 minutes.
Here's a five shot 20 yd group on a 2" Shoot-N-See with my RIA.
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=6971
 
I am left handed, so I need the ambi safety.

The checkering doesn't appear to be as urgent as I thought. The tape seems like an alternative.
 
My suggestion: save yourself a ton of money and buy a Sprinfield "Loaded" 1911 as your base-line pistol, add the ambi safety of your choice and use some grip tape on the frontstrap. Checker it later if you think you really need to have it done, but you could buy several lifetime supplies of 3M skateboard tape for what it would cost you to have the frontstrap checkered.
 
Get a Kimber TLE for about $800 and add the ambi safety with the other $100 left over.

I love the 30 LPI front strap checkering on my TLE. It's easier to add the amb safety later than the checkering.
 
My suggestion: save yourself a ton of money and buy a Sprinfield "Loaded" 1911 as your base-line pistol, add the ambi safety of your choice and use some grip tape on the frontstrap. Checker it later if you think you really need to have it done, but you could buy several lifetime supplies of 3M skateboard tape for what it would cost you to have the frontstrap checkered.

Many of the loaded models come with an ambidextrous safety.
 
I know a lot of people like the tape.
I have looked at it and I would not use tape.
 
shaggycat said:
Many of the loaded models come with an ambidextrous safety.

I know, but I didn't see any with an ambi that were in the sub-$900 bracket. If the OP wants to get into four-digit territory then yeah, the ambi and most likely (without looking at the SA website) they could get the checkering as well. Dunno.

I was just pointing out some possible options...
 
Springfield machine checkers cheap and the "pictures" I've seen look very good.
 
As GreenFurniture said - Springfield Loaded. I bought one a year ago and it has all of the features you listed minus the front strap checkering. The ambi safety was a biggie for me. Novak sites, ambi safety, delta hammer (or whatever they call it), adjustable trigger, flared ejection port, beveled mag well, 2 piece/full length guide rod which I am in the process of changing to the original style 1 piece type after leaving the allen wrench at home on the last range trip :fire: which allowed me to NOT use my conversion kit.
Awsome gun though! Finishes that I know of for current new models are blue and stainless. Maybe the black stainless, not sure. I got the armor coat green which has held up very well minues the idiot mark I placed in it during the first reassembly session:banghead:
 
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Another vote for the Springfield Loaded, it has everything but the frontstrap checkering. (I don't remember right offhand if it has the backstrap checkering.) Depending on the model you get, it'll run you anywhere from $700 for the parkerized version to I think about $1150 for the MC Operator. I sure do like my parkerized one. Not a big fan of any kind of checkering here, I just installed a set of Hogue rubber grips with the finger grooves in the front. They complement the parked finish very well.
littlelefty -- I think the blued finish you refer to is actually parkerized, but am not 100% sure about that. Last I saw on the Springfield website, the Loaded full-size 1911s were available in black stainless, stainless, bi-tone (parkerized frame & stainless slide) & parkerized finishes, and an OD green frame & black (parkerized?) slide on the Operator.
 
Another vote for the Springfield Loaded, it has everything but the frontstrap checkering. (I don't remember right offhand if it has the backstrap checkering.) Depending on the model you get, it'll run you anywhere from $700 for the parkerized version to I think about $1150 for the MC Operator. I sure do like my parkerized one. Not a big fan of any kind of checkering here, I just installed a set of Hogue rubber grips with the finger grooves in the front. They complement the parked finish very well.
littlelefty -- I think the blued finish you refer to is actually parkerized, but am not 100% sure about that. Last I saw on the Springfield website, the Loaded full-size 1911s were available in black stainless, stainless, bi-tone (parkerized frame & stainless slide) & parkerized finishes, and an OD green frame & black (parkerized?) slide on the Operator.
 
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