What are the dumbest gun handling skills you've seen in hollywood movies?

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I've always loved seeing the "battery operated" machine guns and sub guns that had a full-auto click-click-click-click-click when the gun ran out of ammo, the shotgun that sends the bad guy flying through a solid wood door, how when a good guy becomes a bad guy, somehow he has now lost any and all accuracy he had as a good guy...

I tried to catch all the stuff I could as the weapons technical advisor on the independent film I'm working on. For the most part, I've been able to keep it fairly accurate gun wise but unfortunately technical accuracy and director's personal vision don't always share the same space and time so I couldn't get all of it. (for instance, sometimes he told the actors to put their fingers on the triggers after I told em to keep em off the triggers) That's showbiz I guess
 
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If you try this with a Winchester 1892 action, centrifical force will lift the nose of the round upward and the bolt will try to close on it. It might work OK with an 1873, or 1866 type action.
The '92 used by Chuck Connors in The Rifleman has a specially modified bolt to overcome this problem.
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Well, I know it works with my Winchester 94 Trapper. I also know that that front sight can get you in the shoulder if you aren't carefull.
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Ooooops, yes, it will work with the '94 design, too. I recall reading some gun writer's article about handling one of the rifles Connors used in The Rifleman series. The author spun it like Connors did -- and the front sight caught his shirt at the shoulder! Connors didn't have this problem because he was a tall lanky fellow, but us mere mortals had best beware!:D
 
Scene in True Lies, the woman (jamie lee curtis?) drops an Ingrams or Uzi style SMG, it fires as it hits the floor (I cringed) the bullets miraculously find their way to a badguy (I cringe again), gun bounces onto stairway firing again(cringe with fear and forboding) and continues to bounce down the rest of the stairs, firing every bounce, killing badguys with every fire.....
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Yeah, but the sight of Jamie Lee doing the "Pole Dance" on the bed post makes it worth it! :evil:
 
There's a wonderful old movie called Silverado. In it, one of the good guys shoots another good guy's gun... while he's holding it... from about 100 yds off... with a revolver... to get his attention. GG 2 looks to see who shot him, GG 1 points to the left, GG 2 gives a thumbs up and shoots BG.
 
I grew up watching Gene Autry and Hopalong Cassidy (really "dating" myself here - :p).

Since I've become a gun collector I've been searching the auction sites for one of those 24-shot SAA's........ ;)
 
Miracle Mile, the "Harry" played by the actor who did Dr Greene on E.R. gets a phone call by mistake from a nuclear silo operator who is trying to call his dad and warn of nuclear war just starting...but it hasn't been reported by any media yet. Harry then goes to find this girl he loves, to get out of the city in the middle of the night before everyone wakes up, panics, and cannot get out.

Plan goes to hell.

Eventually it is dawn and the city is starting to wake up, they have a helocopter on a roof waiting to take off, he has got to go get the pilot, she has to go get her mom or something, he hands her a snub revolver, the grips have been knocked off.

"A GUN! I hate GUNS!"

"Don't worry, it's not loaded. I don't even think it works any more"

"Oh, OKAY!"

she then grabs the gun and runs through the crowd holding it in front of her or sometimes holding it over her head, sometimes pointing it and clicking it at people to get them to get out of the way.



In some ways this is a very stupid but very accurate description of how many people would treat a gun. For many, it is a magical tailsman, inheriently frightening, and see a need for all of them to be destroyed because of the harm they could do. And yet, even the 'bluff' of 'get out of my way or I will kill you' is an assault, and these same people who hate guns and want them all gone are the very first ones to grab one up and misuse it.
 
OMG what movie did that link in #128 come from? That has to be one of the funniest things I've seen in YEARS!

BTW another thing that bothers me is the old "Superman" serials, with George Reeves. The bad guy empties the revolver at the Man of Steel, who puffs his chest out as the bullets shatter on it, chuckling softly to himself at the impacts, sparkly bits flying everywhere. Then the bad guy, obviously driven into a desperate action by the obvious impotence of his little .38, proceeds to throw said revolver at Superman.....WHO DODGES IT!!!!!


I mean okay, IRL a .38 upside the head does hurt a bit, but ole George's chest was padded out, and a wooden stage revolver would be easy enough to make.
 
Way too many to list, but a couple stand out...

And most have been mentioned already. Either bad gun handling, or bad technical editing (sound mostly), or jus plain bad judgement.

The accidental shooting in Pulp Fiction. Very good actually, clearly showing what can happen when you point a gun at someone while just "talking".

The sniper shot in Saving Private Ryan, while many scoff at the whole "shooting through the bad guy's scope", it has been done in real life (Gunny Hathcock in Vietnam). But look close, and you will see the "sniper" in Pvt Ryan actually appearing to adjust the objective lens of his scope (parallax), while talking about "windage and elevation".

One really ridiculous one I remember, although I can't remember the name of the movie was on the Scifi channel. The Germans had created a giant monster, complete with giant German helmet, and in one scene, a GI confronts the monster, and throws away his rifle, to draw a pair of pistols! Which didn't have any effect either.

And while this tread is about bad gun handling, I would like to mention one example of good gun handling, in a most unexpected place. In the movie Sahara,the sidekick character picks up a dropped AK 47, and while hiding behind a truck fof cover, pops out and checks the mag, then reseats it and chambers a round! A few of the other things are ok as well, but I do draw the line at shooting down a helicopter with a civil war era cannon (and powder) that have been buried in the desert for over a century!

And while the sound of guns has been mentioned, one thing not mentioned is the sound of guns on people. Firing a pistol in a room or hallway, let alone an assault rifle, and you will not be having a normal conversation a couple of minutes later.
One more thing, check the shooting range scene in Lethal Weapon closely, and you may notice that the "bullet holes" making the "smiley face" are not only neat perfectly rounds circles, but they don't even go all the way through the paper!

Don't, don't, don't get your ideas about guns, laws, medicine, cars, or even basic physics from movies and TV! If you do, sooner or later, reality will come along and bite you, painfully!
 
There's a wonderful old movie called Silverado. In it, one of the good guys shoots another good guy's gun... while he's holding it... from about 100 yds off... with a revolver... to get his attention. GG 2 looks to see who shot him, GG 1 points to the left, GG 2 gives a thumbs up and shoots BG.
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He actually shot the wall beside him, not his gun (I just watched that scene to make sure).
 
oddly enough, most of the movies i've seen lately even though they still have little grasp of physics, have much better handling skills. specifically, i'm not seeing the cup n saucer hold much anymore and i'm not seeing the finger on the trigger constantly
 
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