What are your thoughts regarding "monkey fist" weapons?
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lemaymiami
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Never came up onto one on the street... but if the monkey's fist knot is enclosing a lead ball (0r something similar ...) it's just a primitive slungshot (see what I've already written about blackjacks...).
They definitely would be categorized as slungshots. As far as I can see from reading the FL statutes, the only non firearm/non explosive weapon that is currently out right prohibited to possess, sell, or manufacturer for everybody anywhere in the state are "ballistic self-propelled knives".
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0790/0790.html
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I've had inmates as patients at the prison that got hit in the face repeatedly with a lock in a sock. Messed them all up.
Had one guy several months ago who was stabbed in the back (left kidney area) with a metal shank and had his face beat in with a slock. His eyes were so swollen I couldn't even assess his pupils.
So they work.
Of course that guy had nowhere to run to, so there's that.
I imagine that those Monkey Fists would be roughly about as effective in inflicting damage. It's all about how ready and willing the user is to keep hitting. ("It's not the size of dog in the fight, it's the size of fight in the dog")
Had one guy several months ago who was stabbed in the back (left kidney area) with a metal shank and had his face beat in with a slock. His eyes were so swollen I couldn't even assess his pupils.
So they work.
Of course that guy had nowhere to run to, so there's that.
I imagine that those Monkey Fists would be roughly about as effective in inflicting damage. It's all about how ready and willing the user is to keep hitting. ("It's not the size of dog in the fight, it's the size of fight in the dog")
My guess would be that if you ladle a guy with a loaded sap-like object, you're going to have a bad day in court regardless if you were in the right.
If you beat him. up with that same thing and it's it's nothing more than a fist full of paracord, I think you'll be ok.
Personally, I would feel better armed taking some braided paracord and slinging my tangle of keys like a flail. I've got a couple for my truck, my wife's car, our old jeep, and about 8 metal keys for various doors in two office buildings.
Might be a foolish thing to do with your keys. However, if I'm going medieval with improvised hand to hand weapons, I'm probably out of ammo and broke my knife.
If you beat him. up with that same thing and it's it's nothing more than a fist full of paracord, I think you'll be ok.
Personally, I would feel better armed taking some braided paracord and slinging my tangle of keys like a flail. I've got a couple for my truck, my wife's car, our old jeep, and about 8 metal keys for various doors in two office buildings.
Might be a foolish thing to do with your keys. However, if I'm going medieval with improvised hand to hand weapons, I'm probably out of ammo and broke my knife.
BigBlue 94
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Inmates at a local jail we supply paint to started peeling the paint off the wall and forming it into balls. (Our product lifted existing layers, and they took advantage. Inmates are very clever.) I have one that is a bit bigger than a golf ball. The other one they recovered was the size of a baseball. They are rock hard. It put a hole in 5/8 drywall when I threw it. If put in a tube sock, they will kill. It's all about the density of said monkey fist and length of "whip".
We used to use Monkey Fists for heaving lines in the Navy. So they have a practical, non-weaponized
purpose. (If you have a 40' or larger boat) Slungshot is easy and cheap to improvise. Seems like if you use
a Monkey Fist, you have premeditation to worry about, on the back end.
purpose. (If you have a 40' or larger boat) Slungshot is easy and cheap to improvise. Seems like if you use
a Monkey Fist, you have premeditation to worry about, on the back end.
Speedo66
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There was a movie some time back, "Bad Boys" maybe, where an inmate put a few soda cans in a pillowcase and used it to great advantage.
A belt with a good sized sewn on buckle, not snap fastened, can also cause some damage. Wrap the other end in your fist and start swinging, people will get out of your way.
In the old days, with metal garbage cans, the covers were a good combination of shield and weapon.
Growing up in the 50's in a city housing project in the Bronx, I've seen "garrison" belts and can covers used very effectively.
A belt with a good sized sewn on buckle, not snap fastened, can also cause some damage. Wrap the other end in your fist and start swinging, people will get out of your way.
In the old days, with metal garbage cans, the covers were a good combination of shield and weapon.
Growing up in the 50's in a city housing project in the Bronx, I've seen "garrison" belts and can covers used very effectively.
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Deltaboy1984
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I'd stick with a padlock and a short length of braided security cable than a monkey fist.
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Just opinion, but slungshot should be in no way premeditated.
Walk into the local store. Buy a small can of corn.
"Could you double bag that, please? Why, thank you."
Walk into the local store. Buy a small can of corn.
"Could you double bag that, please? Why, thank you."
WestKentucky
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The ones I have seen were much like the one in the picture, and having played with one that was given to me I came to the conclusion that the best use would be to use it as a grip and sling the keys like a mace. I have 2 key fobs and about 40 keys on my ring so my keys are probably a half pound or so. With 8” of whip I believe that a hard slap with that keychain would stun, and if a key were to hit right it would likely make a nasty puncture.
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