What bolt gun for a long distange gun (700 yd)?

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RoadWild, There's been a lot of good advice here on building the rifle you want. And some excruciatingly polite responses on taking game at 700 yards. Let me play bad cop here.

Don't even THINK about taking a shot like that, EVER. Some of the learned here have cautioned you about wind drift, steady holds, deflection angles, and range finding. They haven’t even touched yet on terminal ballistics of bullets intended to behave a certain way (humanely) on game at far shorter distances than what you propose. They are trying to tell you something.

I'm hoping not a single one of these assumptions about you is true: You're a Marine Sniper wannabe; you've spent hours playing World of Warcraft; you've never been on a serious extended hunt in your life; you’ve watched animal snuff videos on YouTube; you’ve never maimed, wounded, or tracked an animal you’ve shot, small game included.

Let me offer a pretty mild account of a long range shot gone bad, written by Jack O’Connor, quoted from The Hunter’s Shooting Guide.

“Legitimate shooting at long range requires, first of all, the rather poorly distributed commodity called judgment, something which many of us, alas, do not have. Before a rifleman takes a pop at an animal beyond his sure hitting range, he should pause and ask himself what will happen if he wounds the beast. Once I was riding back toward camp with a trigger-happy character when we saw a big bull moose, with enormous snowy-white antlers, standing on the far side of a muskeg meadow. He was about 400 yards away and right at the edge of heavy timber. This citizen jumped off his horse and before you could say “glockenspiel” he had fired offhand. I heard the plunk of the bullet on the water filled stomach, and the bull faded into the timber. We found no blood, but we did find some hairs cut off by the bullet. We tracked the bull about a quarter of a mile but it grew dark back in the timber and we had to return to our horses and ride to camp. As far as I could see our boy suffered no remorse. But all he’d done was donate some meat to the wolves.”

I’m not suggesting you’d take that shot, or that you’re the kind of person O’Connor portrays. But this is serious . . . stuff. Keep talking and reading, and endure the blunt force trauma of old guys like me. But please, don’t ever aspire to 700-yard shots on any creature. Thank you.

Respectfully,
Ross Bellingham
 
Deadcalm/Ross had it correct; Jeff Cooper in "The Art of the Rifle" went a bit further. He said that a rifleman that has to resort to a long/uncertain shot isn't a rifleman, as the rifleman would get closer to ensure a proper killing shot.

On "sniper" rifles, I can't stress enough the importance of good glass. Some would advocate buying a cheap scope because it's cheap, but the purpose of the rifle is to be effective, not cheap. If you want a serious precision rifle, you are going to spend $800 on a scope minimum. Some would argue that all expensive glass has is better adjustments. Without going into the fallacy of that argument, remember that the sights of your rifle are the most important piece you could possibly put on it. Super light triggers are a great improvement, as are purpose designed stocks and bipods, but what's the point if you can't see what you are trying to shoot because the lenses were not ground very well and the coatings are reducing the amount of light transmitted to the eyepiece?
 
In reality...

700 yard shooting is a lot of fun. However 99.9% of people should limit this fun to gongs, paper, or possibly varmints.
 
Believe it or not one of the best groups I shot with factory ammo with my 10FP was with Hornady 150gr SST light mags. Not known for accuracy but velocity. :confused:

I roll my own for the .308 and have gotten 1/2 MOA groups off the bench at 100yds using Winchester brass Sierra 168 HPBT and IMR powders.

Rifle shooting in combination with reloading is addicting. Always chasing that perfect bug hole. :D
 
A vote for the Savage FT/R. a writer for Shooting Times wrote an article on one and how well he shot. He put 3 rounds in a .87" gruop at 500yds. Youre not going to get much better than that unless you build a custom rifle.
 
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my 308 savage 10 fp will shoot .375moa all day long if i do my part , best rifle i got for the money , all my friends want to by it . i got it dialed in on 150 sierra spbt 43 grains imr4064 on win. brass an primers an it just plugs them out to 800 yards. And as for the ftr that i just got i am still working on a load for that. :)
 
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