LonewolfMcquade
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Still conserving brass for now. Shot my new Excalibur Micro Mag 340 I got Friday .
What did you shoot today?
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I had taken the scope off the Weihrauch HW 52 falling block rifle and mounted and eyeballed the original sights more than a few weeks ago but had tested so many guns that my own favorite had to take a back seat until today.
It was right on at 25 yards offhand and I am getting more and more intrigued with those old fashioned and not very practical single shot rifles!
A couple of HW52s are missing in this photo, therefore a Haenel was smuggled in.
It was right on at 25 yards offhand and I am getting more and more intrigued with those old fashioned and not very practical single shot rifles!
A couple of HW52s are missing in this photo, therefore a Haenel was smuggled in.
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1976B.L.Johns.
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AzShooter1
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Played with the sights a little and finally got it centered. This is 50 rounds at 25 yards off hand with my Ruger Mark IV 22/45 Lite with upgrades.
I've been shooting CCI Mini Mags with extreme prejudice and getting supeior groups but I had the opportunity to buy and try some Norma (Volquartsen ) Black Mamba with it.
During this past session I was help up by putting SV and Noice Reduction on the same plateform
Last weekend I shot the best Steel Challege I eve had. It was only a 150 second match, Not even close to what I was in my prime but I am really enjoying it.
Today I shot a brick of Norma Tac 22. It ran flawlessly today as is did at our monthly Steel Challenge.
I started shooting to the right, adjusted too much and settled in the center eventually at 15 yards. I did pretty well at 25 as well but that picture didn't turn out well.
Don't live near Brainerd, just like lever actions.
Archie
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The bull.
Ignition Override
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The name "Maadi" is from the Egyptian town where these were produced under Russian supervision.
As always, this photo is just a random image on Google.
I never had luck with the iPhone / computer procedures to upload photos.
As always, this photo is just a random image on Google.
I never had luck with the iPhone / computer procedures to upload photos.
Hooda Thunkit
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1941 Sako Finn M-39, at the club. 200 yd day.
Last row, third butt from the right.
Last row, third butt from the right.
Ignition Override
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Hooda Thunkit:
I might look for one of these M39 Sakos in the somewhat near-future.
Extremely cool and you have such a nice leade, main bore and muzzle for such nice shooting.
Two well-used, MN 44s I had could do approx. 6" groups at 50 yards on a soft bench rest.
I might look for one of these M39 Sakos in the somewhat near-future.
Extremely cool and you have such a nice leade, main bore and muzzle for such nice shooting.
Two well-used, MN 44s I had could do approx. 6" groups at 50 yards on a soft bench rest.
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Hooda Thunkit
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The M39s tend to be in better shape than a run of the mill issue Mosin 91/30, or even the M44. I think the average Finnish Army soldier was of better stock, and MUCH better trained, than the average Soviet conscript.
Funny thing, the bore on this one is frosty. Good rifling, good muzzle, but the bore is not pristine by any stretch of the word.
The M39 is just a well made rifle, especially for an issue battle rifle.
The M39 are very accurate and the split stocks came from a factory that usually made legs for chairs, so the wooden blanks were not long enough. The Suomi were fierce fighters, an uncle of mine fought on their side against the Bolsheviks in 1939 and he always told the story how they Suomis went out into no man's land at night with only their knives and came back bloody.
Moisin Nagant M39 | Military Wiki | Fandom
Winter War Fighter: The Mosin-Nagant M/28-30 (tactical-life.com)
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Bergara B14R. Testing out NRL-22 steel.
Top is Target Hanging Solutions hanger and paddles, bottom is X Steel hanger and paddles. I wanted to see how they reacted when getting hit all over and see if they would hang up or not before buying more. The X Steel paddles have a bigger slot with smaller hooks on the hanger, Target Hanging Solutions were a much closer fit of paddle slot to hanger hook.
The X Steel paddles (on the right) really had life to them, really jumped when hit, sometimes swinging side to side making a follow up shot harder/more fun, I even made the bottom X Steel paddle swing 180 degrees in a full circle a couple of revolutions. With its wide slot, they would sometimes hang slightly tilted right or left, but not enough to matter.
The Target Hanging Solutions paddles jumped less, with almost no side to side movement, good for a fast follow up shot. They always hung straight down, though sometimes tilted a hair forward or back, but not enough to matter.
So if you like to see steel jump, get the X Steel set up. If you like boring, unlikely to ever tilt sideways making a shot very difficult, you may want the TGS set up, although neither brand did that today. I have seen it at matches, I just don't know what kind they were.
I like both setups, but figure the kids will like the more reactive X Steel set up better.
I set them out at 65 yards. You can see other targets out further, the last target is at 113.5 yards.
My first four shots.
Here are all of my shots, I hit them on the edges a lot to see how they would react, swing, hand up, whatever, but they never
failed to hang back down with the full face of the paddle visible.
I shot the paddles off the bench today, but my buddy Jeff and I have been using the Tank Trap I built to practice steadiness on barricades.
Top is Target Hanging Solutions hanger and paddles, bottom is X Steel hanger and paddles. I wanted to see how they reacted when getting hit all over and see if they would hang up or not before buying more. The X Steel paddles have a bigger slot with smaller hooks on the hanger, Target Hanging Solutions were a much closer fit of paddle slot to hanger hook.
The X Steel paddles (on the right) really had life to them, really jumped when hit, sometimes swinging side to side making a follow up shot harder/more fun, I even made the bottom X Steel paddle swing 180 degrees in a full circle a couple of revolutions. With its wide slot, they would sometimes hang slightly tilted right or left, but not enough to matter.
The Target Hanging Solutions paddles jumped less, with almost no side to side movement, good for a fast follow up shot. They always hung straight down, though sometimes tilted a hair forward or back, but not enough to matter.
So if you like to see steel jump, get the X Steel set up. If you like boring, unlikely to ever tilt sideways making a shot very difficult, you may want the TGS set up, although neither brand did that today. I have seen it at matches, I just don't know what kind they were.
I like both setups, but figure the kids will like the more reactive X Steel set up better.
I set them out at 65 yards. You can see other targets out further, the last target is at 113.5 yards.
My first four shots.
Here are all of my shots, I hit them on the edges a lot to see how they would react, swing, hand up, whatever, but they never
failed to hang back down with the full face of the paddle visible.
I shot the paddles off the bench today, but my buddy Jeff and I have been using the Tank Trap I built to practice steadiness on barricades.
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Reloadron
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Thanks for sharing the steel. Informative dope there. Oh yeah and nice shooting too. 
Ron
Ron
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My semi-auto VZ-58.
You might trust Ian's perspective and info more than anything from This computer.
He provides a much better context on everything and can clear up typical misunderstandings and assumptions.
Hooda Thunkit:
Yes, and I read about the Finnish Mosins years ago, but I was too cheap to pay more than what a $150 91/30 or 44 cost, back in '07-'08. Regrettably.
But at least one can always be found at a current market price---or higher.
You might trust Ian's perspective and info more than anything from This computer.
He provides a much better context on everything and can clear up typical misunderstandings and assumptions.
Hooda Thunkit:
Yes, and I read about the Finnish Mosins years ago, but I was too cheap to pay more than what a $150 91/30 or 44 cost, back in '07-'08. Regrettably.
But at least one can always be found at a current market price---or higher.
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Frulk
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Went to the range yesterday for a solo 3+ hour informal shooting session...
Loading up: I really like these rifle bags by Voodoo. Rugged and capable of carrying two rifles. Lots of storage/pocket options and well-padded with decent internal restraints. In fact, were you to fill every pouch available you probably wouldn't be able to carry them in a reasonable fashion.
Second rifle with internal divider flipped up
While getting ready I finally decided after 2 years to 'sanitize' the bags and remove all of the extra external carrying straps. You can carry them backpack style etc. I'd like to see Voodoo sell the basic bag and add the straps as a separate option to buy as I don't think most people are interested in them.
Bags and Range box ready to load:
I picked out one of my favorite steel targets. You can tell by how dusty the surface is that its been a while since I've had it out. Made by SRM in Kuna Idaho and I can't say enough good about it. Easy to set up and disassemble. Takes 1X2's as uprights.
Off to the Range. Plan is to sight in the new flip up sights and Red Dot on the as of yet un-shot Hammerli Tac 22, Sight in the Sweet .22 on the yet to be shot Ruger M77/.22Mag and compare accuracy to the Marlin SSV. 22 Mag bought back in 1999 (which has an older model BSA Sweet 22 on it). Lastly, continue to eval the Keltec PMR30 reliability as its come up in recent threads as a point of discussion and I probably haven't shot the gun in over 1.5 years.
The Hammerli was first out of the gate and I had immediate problems with it. I brought one 100 round sleeve of mixed .22's and the gun would not cycle properly. I checked the mixed rounds and found a few Remington Vipers that would cycle the gun but there were maybe 9-12 out of the hundred of those. In the Hammerlis' defense it does have an adjustable gas system to assist with cycling various ammo however, having 4 more guns to shoot I decided to retire it for the day. PS: of the 9 rounds I got on paper the sights seemed centered but was hitting about 6-7 inches low. I'll deal with that another day.
At 25 yards on Paper:
Next was the Marlin SSV in .22 Mag. This gun has always been a reliable tack driver right out of the box. Shooting CCI 40grain JHP it produced the best group of the day and the only group I shot with it.
I then went to the Ruger M77/.22 Mag. I had bore sighted the rifle at home after scoping it and didn't touch any of the turrets.
The results of this group didn't surprise me. The Ruger needs some experimentation with different ammo to see if better results can be attained. I would also say that the Ruger's trigger is a bit stiff. I'm contemplating taking it to my local smith to see if he can do something about that.
Best groups: Ruger on top...Marlin SSV on bottom with the results of a 5 shot group. I think I have the Marlin dialed in for 75 yards.
Before shooting the Ruger M77 I set up the chrono and clocked 1921 FPS as an average. CCI says 1875 FPS for their Maxi Mag 40hr JHP .22Mag. I was going to see what the Marlin was producing for FPS but as luck would have it the battery in the Chrony died. I suspect it would probably be pushing a few more FPS due to the increased barrel length.
During a cease fire I retired the Chrony because of the battery issue
, changed out the target and moved it to 15 yards to facilitate use of the Keltec PMR30. I haven't shot this gun a lot as it was an impulse purchase 2+ years ago. Until today I had about 150-180 flawless rounds through it. I've been on a couple of recent THR threads were the PMR was being discussed and it does have an established or at least lingering reputation of spotty reliability (cycling).
Today I wanted to continue the shooting to see if my version was prone to this. I was very careful to load the mags as described in the hopes of preventing some cycling issues. At around the point I had 20 rounds loaded in the magazine I had to use CONSIDERABLE force to continue loading. To the point the following was happening. Note the indentation on the case from the rim of a subsequent round I had loaded but then removed to take the picture.
I ran 2, 30 round mags and one 20 round mag through the Keltec PMR30. The 30 rounders were mag dumps...quickly shooting 3-round bursts through one and basically nonstop for the other. The 20 rounder was being shot for accuracy. Only the 20-round mag was shot sitting. I will say that the Keltec's sound signature during the nonstop mag dump is rather...AHEM... impressive. To the point when I finished, I noticed most of the shooters in my proximity were looking to see what I was shooting.
The Keltec ejected the spent cases with AUTHORITY and almost into the next time zone. No failures to feed or eject. That now puts the flawless cycling count for this gun at around 220-250. Not a HUGE number but enough to build some confidence in its reliability. The gun has little recoil but because it's so light you need to force yourself to remember to grab it somewhat firmly because it wants to jump around in your hand. The wide grip (front to back) feels very good in my hand and the fiber optic sights light up like little red and green LED's even in indirect sunlight.
This was the result of the standing, non-stop 30 round mag dump at 15 yards...oddly enough, the results of me sitting and shooting for accuracy weren't much different.
Having now acquired a holster for the PMR30 I'm on the hunt for a red dot (already found a mount) and will see what the results of that will be. I'm warming up to the idea of it as a potential CCW. You have to hold it to understand just how slim and light it is even with 30 rounds on board. Here it is in contrast to a Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact in .40 S&W.
Although I had more ammo for the Keltec I decided to retire it as well and put it in the range box vice with the action back and mag removed per our range rules.
By about this time I was one of two shooters left on a 30-lane, 100 yard range. We had a quick cease fire so I took the steel plate target out with a range cart and set it up at 50 yards.
Last in today's gun rotation was the Henry in .327Mag. I can't express how happy I was when Henry released this caliber in their lever line up. I have never had a failure to feed event while using it in either .327FM or .32 H&R Mag (although I overwhelmingly run the .327FM's). Looking closely at the picture below you can see the attention to detail Henry puts into their wood to metal margins.
I shot 60 rounds or so standing. The powder coated 120 grainers hit the plate steel target with some authority as it moved it off axis. That's a testament to the .32 caliber's terminal energy as the target and base combined are solid steel and relatively heavy. They were moving in the 1715 FPS range (per my chrony records from previous sessions) out of the 20-inch barrel. One of my favorite guns to shoot and that's saying a lot as I have a fair collection.
Loading up: I really like these rifle bags by Voodoo. Rugged and capable of carrying two rifles. Lots of storage/pocket options and well-padded with decent internal restraints. In fact, were you to fill every pouch available you probably wouldn't be able to carry them in a reasonable fashion.
Second rifle with internal divider flipped up
While getting ready I finally decided after 2 years to 'sanitize' the bags and remove all of the extra external carrying straps. You can carry them backpack style etc. I'd like to see Voodoo sell the basic bag and add the straps as a separate option to buy as I don't think most people are interested in them.
Bags and Range box ready to load:
I picked out one of my favorite steel targets. You can tell by how dusty the surface is that its been a while since I've had it out. Made by SRM in Kuna Idaho and I can't say enough good about it. Easy to set up and disassemble. Takes 1X2's as uprights.
Off to the Range. Plan is to sight in the new flip up sights and Red Dot on the as of yet un-shot Hammerli Tac 22, Sight in the Sweet .22 on the yet to be shot Ruger M77/.22Mag and compare accuracy to the Marlin SSV. 22 Mag bought back in 1999 (which has an older model BSA Sweet 22 on it). Lastly, continue to eval the Keltec PMR30 reliability as its come up in recent threads as a point of discussion and I probably haven't shot the gun in over 1.5 years.
The Hammerli was first out of the gate and I had immediate problems with it. I brought one 100 round sleeve of mixed .22's and the gun would not cycle properly. I checked the mixed rounds and found a few Remington Vipers that would cycle the gun but there were maybe 9-12 out of the hundred of those. In the Hammerlis' defense it does have an adjustable gas system to assist with cycling various ammo however, having 4 more guns to shoot I decided to retire it for the day. PS: of the 9 rounds I got on paper the sights seemed centered but was hitting about 6-7 inches low. I'll deal with that another day.
At 25 yards on Paper:
Next was the Marlin SSV in .22 Mag. This gun has always been a reliable tack driver right out of the box. Shooting CCI 40grain JHP it produced the best group of the day and the only group I shot with it.
I then went to the Ruger M77/.22 Mag. I had bore sighted the rifle at home after scoping it and didn't touch any of the turrets.
The results of this group didn't surprise me. The Ruger needs some experimentation with different ammo to see if better results can be attained. I would also say that the Ruger's trigger is a bit stiff. I'm contemplating taking it to my local smith to see if he can do something about that.
Best groups: Ruger on top...Marlin SSV on bottom with the results of a 5 shot group. I think I have the Marlin dialed in for 75 yards.
Before shooting the Ruger M77 I set up the chrono and clocked 1921 FPS as an average. CCI says 1875 FPS for their Maxi Mag 40hr JHP .22Mag. I was going to see what the Marlin was producing for FPS but as luck would have it the battery in the Chrony died.
I suspect it would probably be pushing a few more FPS due to the increased barrel length.
During a cease fire I retired the Chrony because of the battery issue
, changed out the target and moved it to 15 yards to facilitate use of the Keltec PMR30. I haven't shot this gun a lot as it was an impulse purchase 2+ years ago. Until today I had about 150-180 flawless rounds through it. I've been on a couple of recent THR threads were the PMR was being discussed and it does have an established or at least lingering reputation of spotty reliability (cycling). Today I wanted to continue the shooting to see if my version was prone to this. I was very careful to load the mags as described in the hopes of preventing some cycling issues. At around the point I had 20 rounds loaded in the magazine I had to use CONSIDERABLE force to continue loading. To the point the following was happening. Note the indentation on the case from the rim of a subsequent round I had loaded but then removed to take the picture.
I ran 2, 30 round mags and one 20 round mag through the Keltec PMR30. The 30 rounders were mag dumps...quickly shooting 3-round bursts through one and basically nonstop for the other. The 20 rounder was being shot for accuracy. Only the 20-round mag was shot sitting. I will say that the Keltec's sound signature during the nonstop mag dump is rather...AHEM... impressive. To the point when I finished, I noticed most of the shooters in my proximity were looking to see what I was shooting.
The Keltec ejected the spent cases with AUTHORITY and almost into the next time zone. No failures to feed or eject. That now puts the flawless cycling count for this gun at around 220-250. Not a HUGE number but enough to build some confidence in its reliability. The gun has little recoil but because it's so light you need to force yourself to remember to grab it somewhat firmly because it wants to jump around in your hand. The wide grip (front to back) feels very good in my hand and the fiber optic sights light up like little red and green LED's even in indirect sunlight.
This was the result of the standing, non-stop 30 round mag dump at 15 yards...oddly enough, the results of me sitting and shooting for accuracy weren't much different.
Having now acquired a holster for the PMR30 I'm on the hunt for a red dot (already found a mount) and will see what the results of that will be. I'm warming up to the idea of it as a potential CCW. You have to hold it to understand just how slim and light it is even with 30 rounds on board. Here it is in contrast to a Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact in .40 S&W.
Although I had more ammo for the Keltec I decided to retire it as well and put it in the range box vice with the action back and mag removed per our range rules.
By about this time I was one of two shooters left on a 30-lane, 100 yard range. We had a quick cease fire so I took the steel plate target out with a range cart and set it up at 50 yards.
Last in today's gun rotation was the Henry in .327Mag. I can't express how happy I was when Henry released this caliber in their lever line up. I have never had a failure to feed event while using it in either .327FM or .32 H&R Mag (although I overwhelmingly run the .327FM's). Looking closely at the picture below you can see the attention to detail Henry puts into their wood to metal margins.
I shot 60 rounds or so standing. The powder coated 120 grainers hit the plate steel target with some authority as it moved it off axis. That's a testament to the .32 caliber's terminal energy as the target and base combined are solid steel and relatively heavy. They were moving in the 1715 FPS range (per my chrony records from previous sessions) out of the 20-inch barrel. One of my favorite guns to shoot and that's saying a lot as I have a fair collection.
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LonewolfMcquade
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Did the fine tuning on the Excalibur out to 50 yards with the Bog Deathgrip.
Shot the NRL-22 match today at Altus. My buddy Jeff failed to take a pic of me......sigh..........
Here is the fellow who won it all, I had a good day though, was top old gun and 7th overall.
Here's what I shot, but it has a different scope on it now, a Vortex Viper PST Gen II
Here is the fellow who won it all, I had a good day though, was top old gun and 7th overall.
Here's what I shot, but it has a different scope on it now, a Vortex Viper PST Gen II
jonnyc
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Just played-around today, with a .45-70 Trapdoor and a 10/22. Got 1 ft. groups and 1 inch groups at 50 yards. Bet you can't guess which rifle got which group! Well, maybe you can...
1976B.L.Johns.
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Nice write-up!
Shot 56 rounds through my Kimber Rapide in 45ACP loaded with 6.0 grains of CFE Pistol pushing a 230 grain FMJ and just 10 rounds of 9mm through my friends new double stack SAR which I cannot recall the model.
We went up north to the huntin' shack.
Mosquitoes and biting black flies were horrendous, otherwise i think we would have spent more time shootin'.
1976B.L.Johns.
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Prairie, swamp or domestic?
Frulk
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Hunted black bear in the spring one year north of Baudette around Kenora Canada. Was unseasonably warm. Black flies rivaled those I’d experienced in the Allagash Wilderness in Maine. Ruined the hunt. Had on so much DEET it ate some of the stock finish off my Ruger M77 and Win 94.
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