What do you think the most reliable/rugged .22lr is

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Except that Remington brazes their bolt handles to the bolt...allowing for far easier breakage, something I have witnessed the aftermath of. How do you cycle a bolt action expediently with no handle? More to consider than just strong lock up.
 
my first bolt action .22 bought in 2008 a cz 452fs till this day not one single problem, then i thought id give the ruger 1022 a try.....meh...sold it. ended up buying another cz a 452 ultra lux=me happy:)
 
Please donot pick on my 10 22, gentlemen. I love mine, as is.

You wouldn't rather have a decent trigger from the factory or a metal trigger guard (like they used to be)? I like mine too but a bit rough as it was. Rugged and reliable but not the most reliable IMO.
 
I have an old single shot marlin that my grandpa bought used in the late 30's im not sure of the model number but it has a cocking peice on the bolt that you have to pull back after you close the trigger.it has lived in the barn for the last 50+ years and used quite regularly and it still works fine.I would say it is more than reliable.
 
Except that Remington brazes their bolt handles to the bolt...allowing for far easier breakage, something I have witnessed the aftermath of. How do you cycle a bolt action expediently with no handle? More to consider than just strong lock up.

I'd just LOVE to see you break a bolt handle off a 40XR trying to get a "rimfire" case out!!

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Fella's;

I used to shoot NRA indoor competition. The rifle I used for years was a Remington 40XB in .22lr. That action was not a Remmie 700. There are major differences.

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You wouldn't rather have a decent trigger from the factory or a metal trigger guard (like they used to be)?
No. 99% of the time I prefer blued steel and walnut but your typical 10/22 is neither. Some of us actually view the polymer trigger housing as an improvement. No more spray painted aluminum to get dinged up and nasty looking. They're also held to tighter tolerances than the old aluminum housings. I don't care for the plastic trigger and mag release but those are swapped out anyway.
 
I'd just LOVE to see you break a bolt handle off a 40XR trying to get a "rimfire" case out!!

Happens in more situations than case extraction. Don't know exactly why the OP asked the question but it was asked. If I were being hunted down, stood at the edge of a drop and was forced for sake of survival to jump then slide out of harms way, I simply wouldn't want a bolt handle sticking out to be caught by a rock or tree. I wouldn't want the stock to collapse at the inlet and trap the handle. I wouldn't want my clothing catching and actuating the bolt, leaving it open and unprotected by the receiver, not to mention having an open empty action. Extreme example yes. All conceivable yes.

Some of us actually view the polymer trigger housing as an improvement. No more spray painted aluminum to get dinged up and nasty looking.

Fine by me but the question concerns what is most rugged and reliable.
 
Fine by me but the question concerns what is most rugged and reliable.
And when exactly were they proven to be less rugged (whatever that means) or reliable? Are polymer framed pistols dropping like flies???
 
And when exactly were they [polymer trigger group] proven to be less rugged (whatever that means) or reliable?

Some of us actually view the polymer trigger housing as an improvement. No more spray painted aluminum to get dinged up and nasty looking.

What do paint chips and nasty looks have to do with ruggedness and reliablity?
 
CeeZee,

I sure would like to see all those imported Ruritanian break action .22 rifles that had hinge pins (normally of a diameter similar to the barrel as RWD pointed out) worn away by the massive forces applied by the brutal .22lr cartridge. It would be extremely interesting to see how they manufactured the chocolate-tin alloy that they must be made of.

Certainly those made in Gardener MA, Springfield MA, Meriden CT and elsewhere in this country were made out of iron and steel. I simply do not believe and call "shenanigans" on your claim that the .22lr cartridge is able to wear out the hinge pins on those tens of thousands of single shot break action rifles that so many of us got third and fourth hand as our first rifle. And if you are suggesting that you could wear the hinge pin out on a .22lr Baikal break action, well, we're now in a land so fictitious as to merit no further discussion on that topic.

Another thought comes to mind though. A falling block type action might split the difference between these masses of extremely robust .22lr bolt rifles that you speak of and the lowly single shot break action.
 
Originally Posted by RPRNY
"It would be extremely interesting to see how they manufactured the chocolate-tin alloy that they must be made of."

C'mon! Anyone with even a basic knowledge of metallurgy should know that any decent chocolate-tin alloy would easily last a century or more in such a low stress application. The only plausible explanation is contamination of the melt by ferric oxide pixie dust! :neener:
 
There are soo many different good, accurate, reliable rimfires out there that you have many choices to make. Ruger 10 22, Ruger 77-22 ss synthetic, and Cz just to name a few. You pays your money and makes your choices. I have found most to absorb the chaeapest of ammo with a few "piffers" thrown in. That represents the sound of an undercharged piece of garbage ammo going off.
All have exited the barrel so far.
 
My vote is for the 10/22. I've had one for 20 yrs, never had any issues with it.
It's no coincidence that it's a staple in many gun owners safe.
 
Irrelevant is just that, a red herring that sees us no closer to resolution which, it appears isn't likely.

Good new for the OP is that most any of the aforementioned rifles will serve under all but the harshest conditions and circumstances. In all honesty, of the .22 rifles I own (5) my get out of dodge go to would be the 10/22 TD for pack ability in a reasonably reliable platform with multi-shot capability.
 
The way a rifle wears is irrelevant to its durability??? The durability of the parts was brought into question by YOU but I'm not allowed to make comments about the other attributes?

Next, will you zero in on my comment about the new polymer housings being held to tighter tolerances?

Or are we just gonna have a free and open discussion on this subject?

So you can now answer my question regarding the durability of the polymer trigger housing. :)


Happens in more situations than case extraction.
How many bolt handles have you broken off? Got any more wild and unsubstantiated theories?
 
If you can afford a nylon 66 it's probably the most relaible/rugged .22 ever built.
I cannot believe how expensive they have gotten. Its a 22 made of plastic. Shoot pretty good but nothing special. Explain the hype? For $400 dollars you can get way more accuracy and a scope. Top it off I think they are ugly. They were built to be cheap and reliable. What am I missing? Do they do something special?
 
I have an old Mossberg M42C .22lr (WWII trainer) that belonged to my grandfather. Extremely solid and rugged for a .22lr. It's seen some abuse through the years but doesn't flinch.

Any other .22 feels like a toy after handling the old Mossberg.
 
The 66 is collectable due to Remington making so many unique variations.


While reliable as far as automatic 22's go I would not consider a 66 especially rugged especially in light of the fact it takes a PHD in mechanical engineering and a day to detail strip, clean and then reassamble one.




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In terms of sheer duribility in no particular order Marlin 60, Rem Nylon 66, Savage anything, Marlin 80 and I would toss in the 10/22 but it breaks more often on me than the other mentioned .
 
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