What does it take to get you to the range???

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I am curious, what does it take to get you to the range for some quality trigger time??? As many of you know that we offer training from basics to high-speed, low-drag, teflon-coated and air-cooled. We appreciate those who have taken the time to attend our courses, and I know that all had a good time and went away being better shooters than when they arrived.

Many people came through last year when Minnesota changed their permit to carry law to a shall issue, of which many of you and your co-horts took your handgun-1 course from us, or took a permit to carry course from another trainer to obtain your carry permit.

The state of Minnesota only requires that you take this course sometime in the 12-months prior to making an application for your permit, of which your permit is good for 5-years. As well as the state of Minnesota only requires that you take that course again in before your permit expires and you go to renew it. Imho "ONE TIME TO THE RANGE EVERY FIVE YEARS IS NOT ENOUGH!!!" If you are serious about carry a firearm or possibly protecting yourself or your loved ones, then you need to obtain as much knowlege as possible and train often.

We have added Alumni range days which are 1/2 day courses and have priced them at $45. These were added so that those who wish to expand on their knowledge as well as become better shooters, can get some quality trigger time at a very affordable price, a price similar to what they might pay at an indoor range. So my question is how come we do not see more of you at the range???

I have been in contact with a buddy of mine from LAPD Metro Division, their Chief Firearms and Tactics Instructor, who has expressed great interest in coming here to offer some world class training of which would be open to all. It is not everyday that you could get the chance to train with someone of this caliber. I have not committed to this as of yet, of which I would be happy to do so if I saw a great interest of enthusiasm and skillfull shooters and the committment.

So I challenge all of you to get to the range!!! I also challenge you to bring someone else to the range. In fact if you bring a new shooter to one of my courses I will give you 1/4 off your tuition, if you bring two new shooters to the range I will give you 1/2 off of your tuition, and if you bring three new shooters to the range I will give you 3/4 off your tuition, and if you bring 4 new shooters to the range I will give you free tuition. So take the Sully Challenge.

Stay Safe,
Greg Sullivan "Sully"
Chief Instructor
www.thedefensiveedge.com
 
What does it take for me to get to gun school?

Clearance from a bunch of men in black dresses!:D

Art, doh! We really need that envy smilie thingy. Man, and I was looking at that brownstone downtown. Hmmm, place in the woods, maybe a creek and hills and my own range, ahhh . . .
 
When I stopped competing years ago, I quit attending public ranges no matter what platform or reason I was going to shoot. I dropped out of public site...only exceptions have been when out of town. Yes I had other reasons as well.

I had use of a private range until it closed closer to me.

Schedule conflicts get in my way. When I can or just want to I hop in the truck head to some farms, and to some folks I know that I can walk out back and shoot anything I want...night or day. We get a few folks together that have training and set it up. Get folks together and teach. I have permisson, keys and combos to safes. Pellet guns to a .50.

All it takes is the time away from other stuff.

I got a plan, to do what I want for Liberties and RKBA I have to "Get Trained up" as El T would say. More to responsible firearms ownership than shooting guns...I need training up in other areas - FOR ME right now.
 
Doesn't take a lot to get me to go:D

If I'm trying to tweak a load or a gun, the public range is 5 miles from my house.

My personal range is 10 miles but I can do any thing I want there.

Professional training? It either has to be close, or in Colorado, which is my preference. Road trip!

Smoke
 
Get me to the range?

Generally, all it takes for me is for it to not be raining so hard my target will fall apart before I shoot them apart, and not be snowing so hard that I can't see the target.

:p

PS: Don't try shooting 9mm blazer in -30 weather. They get a little light at that point, and weren't cycling my slide.
 
Three contiguous hours of free time (takes about an hour to drive to the range.)

Unfortunately, that's rare enough that I haven't gone since January. :(
 
Three contiguous hours of free time
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I'll second that motion, and add another big requirement: a babysitter. Still working on finding one (besides the grandparents, who live 3 time zones away) that my wife trusts with our 3 month old. We tried to take Jr to the range, thinking that one could stay with him while the other fired, but it was way too loud (outdoor range, weekend) and too hot.

I used to get to the range 2-3 times a month when I was single.
 
For practice:
Not much, I try to get out there once a week and shoot 100-150 rounds...usually succeed in getting out there (also try to compete at least once a month).

For formal training:
A belief in the instructor, the value proposition of the course, and available funds/time.

Safe shooting,

CZ52'
 
Not much - although it took me a while to find a range that will let me do the kind of shooting I want to. My local range is only a few minutes down the road, but they don't allow drawing from the holster, IPSC targets, etc.

As much as I would love to go to some week-long gun schools, I just don't have the time or money right now. So I content myself with a few local weekend classes and some coaching.

- Chris
 
It's my Sunday morning ritual . 10-12:00 is pistol time and after that it's clays for an hour or so :D
 
....a phone call from my dad or one of my buddies...or....when the new pallet of ammo arrives!!

MaceWindu
 
I'm with Art E. on this one, a couple steps out the back door!:D Sometimes not even that; I shot a woodchuck from inside the entryway once!:evil:
 
You mean I'm supposed to PRACTICE with this thing?!?!

Actually, I love shooting, so all I need is a day off. My range has a $250/yr unlimited deal, and I take full advantage. My days off are weekdays, so I go late morning and I'm the only one there.

None of my non-shooter friends believe that I consider it the most relaxing thing in the world.
 
I've read this thread and have to wonder how many folks made it past the subject line before posting a response.

I take my firearms rather seriously. I don't hunt or compete (Other than among friends). I do have a lot of fun training in a "High speed, low drag, teflon coated, air cooled" setting.

Will I ever be an "Operator"? Hell no! ::laughing:: But I have learned how to protect my loved ones in a myriad of "social" settings. I've been taught how to see and how to look. (Those of you that have taken formal training know what I'm referring to)

Most of this I've learned from Sully and Co.

I did do a tour in the Army and Military Police. (Most of this training I needed to unlearn)

Defensive Edge offers half day seminars to graduates of their Carbine, Handgun, and Shotgun courses. $45 for 4 hours. (Which never is. The fastest I've gotten out of there is 6 hours)


I guess the whole point of my post is to say that I simply can't afford the $6000.00 for a week at Thunder Ranch or Gunsite. I can however afford the classes offered by Defensive Edge. Those in the central Minnesota area would do well to look into this company if you are tactically minded.

I do most of my posting on the classes on another board. I won't advertise for it here... just isn't right. If you want a link to my homespun reviews, drop me a line at [email protected]








Oh! and me?

I'm medium speed, rarely a drag, cheeto dust coated, and beer cooled.
 
It takes a 20 - 30 minute drive to get me to the range. Plus some money for ammunition.

We joined (flat rate! unlimited hours!) our local range even before we took any of their courses (training not required for a permit in Indiana but ignorance is not bliss). There's no point in ownin' 'em if you ain't gonna shoot 'em -- and there's no point in shootin' 'em unless you can hit what you're aiming at. (H'mmm, does "close" count? Please?)

Other features it "took" to get us to this range: it's indoor, air-conditioned, open seven days a week ('til 9 most nights), and is a part of one of the better local gun stores. It's a real delight when one of the sidearms I collect shows up and I can fieldstrip it while they're processing the paperwork, then (if it looks gtg and Uncle says I can have it) take ten steps through the soundproof doors and be finding out how well it works!

It's a pistol-ammunition only range, and only allows paper targets, but other than that, they're not very restrictive.

--Herself
 
OK, Fed, I'll answer your implied question. I would be scrambling to get there if I could find someone reputable who would charge $45 for 4 quality hours of firearm training regardless of the specific type of arm covered. No one offers that anywhere near me. Quite frankly, I live in a state where it wouldn't be hard to go broke teaching handgunnery for a living, because concealed weapons are illegal here.

I understand the problem, though. I recently paid $25 for a an OK (not great, but OK) knife course recently, and only TWO of us showed up. It wasn't exactly the Riddle of Steel, but it was useful and a whole lot better than nothing (which is relevant, because nothing is exactly what we've had offered around for years.) Everybody you see at that range/gun shop has a folder clipped to his jeans, but only two of us were willing to pay $25 and spend Saturday morning learning more about how to use the darn things. I don't know what you do about that except diversify into teaching people to shoot trap. Good turnout for that.
 
howdy!

ALL I NEED is 2or 300 rounds and walk out the back door for soom
target shootin.my frind shoots IDPA & GSSF & wat ever elce he can find.
he has a range in his back yard and shoots every other weekend.
we have lots of fun and he sets up the range and runs me ragged.
he has a timer and we try to up the stress leval any way we can.
we use cover move & draw from cover its nice and i gess im fortunat.
and i think it helps alot i think if your hart ant beeting fast you ant tranin.
:cool:

P.S. NOTHING AGINST SCHOOL WISH I COULD GET 4 HRS. FOR 45 BUCKS!
ID GO IN A MINUT.



TODD:D
 
Don, just because I carry a knife doesn't mean that I intend, or believe it to be suitable, to use it as a weapon.

That being said, if they offer a knife course that I'm able to attend I'd be glad to sign up.
 
It takes money for me to be able to get to the range. Being that I'm poor right now, I therefore don't get to the range nearly as much as I would like.

As far as a shooting school, if there was one near me charging $45 for a half day of legitimate training, I'd be all over that. I'd dip into savings for a few days worth. Closest thing around me that I know of is MidSouth Institute, over in Mississippi. But they are way too much for me to swing right now. They are a little less than $1000 for a five day course, which I am pretty sure is three days of handgun, one day shotgun, and one day carbine/subgun. Even with a three day pistol course ($610) the cost of all the ammo, food, and lodging just push it right out of reach.

It sucks being poor.:(
 
As stated above we do offer high speed, low drag, teflon coated, and air cooled training sessions for our Alumni, and yes we do this for $45. We do offer low speed, high fundamental based training as well. The purpose for these Alumni sessions is to allow people to get a half day of quality training, as most people that go to the range just shoot for a little while and never get any specific skills instruction or application knowledge.

We are able to allow people to get some real world range time, as they can draw from concealment and/or holster, they can shoot and scan in a 360degree wolrd, they can shoot from and around vehicles etc. We know that people go to the range and practice, but we believe that we are doing those that choose to go the range one better by allowing them to get some high quality range time and not just throwing rounds at paper. We wish to support our Alumni, as well as encourage them to get to the range. By offering them a half day on the range on a weekend, they do not have to have a full day of daycare or spend an entire day away from the family (gotta keep Momma happy!!!) or neglect the usual weekend chores as well.

We have a regular following for these range sessions that is growing. I always wish more would take the opportunity to get some quality range time, as none of us can get enough. If you are not putting them all into the same hole, there is room for improvement!!!

In further support of our Alumni, we are offering training sessions that will be 4-hours of handgun and 4-hours of shoulder weapon (carbine or shotgun). And yes it will only be $45 for the day. Again we want to encourage everyone to get to the range for some quality time.

Stay Safe,
Greg Sullivan "Sully"
Chief Instructor
www.thedefensiveedge.com
 
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