What does the NRA specifically stand for?

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But the party platforms now present a stark contrast when it comes to gun rights. The Democrats are all-in allying themselves with the gun-grabbers.

The problem with the few remaining pro-gun Democrats in Congress is that they're part of the Democratic caucus, that votes in the Democratic party leadership, which is uniformly anti-gun. In other words, they enable that to which they are personally opposed. That puts them in a very difficult position.

The rules of Congress put a great deal of power in the hands of the governing party leadership. It sets the agenda.

So, it's not the fault of the NRA that it supports only (or mostly) Republicans. It's the fault of the parties themselves, and the positions on guns that they have chosen to take. The NRA is merely reacting defensively.

I believe this to be absolutely true... the NRA tried to play fair and square with pro-gun Democrats, and the result was Obama, Pelosi and Harry Reed who were crowned by the DNC.

Unfortunately, the party faithful within the DNC care more about their welfare checks than they do their gun rights.

 

[george burns]

The NRA gives Gun Owners a voice. It may not be perfect, but it is very good for us to support any and all remedies designed to promote pro gun legislation, plus all that they do which is not political. I support 3 or so Organizations that do important work, the NRA is one of them, the Humane Society is another.
You need to become part of the solution or you become part of the problem.
Yesterday I sent over 50 emails out to members of Congress and The Senate, because it was listed on the NRA web site, "new gun legislation", I would not have seen it otherwise. It's important, I just recently posted a question about Local primary's and who to vote for?
Not just the large elections, but the local, circuit judges and county prosecutors, Judges and school board members.
I can't keep track of thirty peoples voting records, but after a call to the NRA, they gave me a website that helped me make an informed decision on each one. I don't want to vote for anyone who wants to take away my rights. If that's narrow-minded than that's what it's come down to, we are losing our Country and must make a stand.

 

[CapnMac]

It's almost too easy to "monday morning" the NRA.
For instance, with 40-45 Shall Issue states, we can see FOPA as a horrible thing (particularly the Hughes amendment, which closed the Registry). But, at the time, it was a huge victory for gun owners, especially for those who needed to travel across several states.Similarly the Manchin-Toomey debacle, where faced with 3-4 onerous an awful options, NRA preemptively got in behind the least egregious one, only to have the issue squashed by non-traditional media (that's us).

In all of this, the NRA was out front, first on the scene, acting and not reacting. Yes, "they" mail a bunch of stuff--but, that's because they hired direct mail agencies to do the mailings for them. Which is smart, DIY is not an effective way to do direct mail--far better to hire professionals and hold them to account. But, the success of DMA is in overwhelming excess, which is what annoys us no end (until you click on the opt-out choices).

One of the things they could do better is to make sure they rotate staff away from the Beltway--that banditry rubs off after a while, and while we need "our" guys making $700K and wearing $3K suits, just to fit in, we can't let our people lose touch with those of us out here in fly-over country who do not earn what a DC janitor does. We need this especially as our foes have indeed lost all touch with their own bases--which gives us an edge in defeating them.

 

[Shaq]

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I agree on this 110% they send me something every other day in the mail. they email me 1-2 times a day. the other day I was emailed by someone about hiliary and renew my membership and they noticed I didn't respond. ive only been a member since april and that's only because my club requires it. I email them back and said geeez you didn't get a response from me in 1 day so you want to send it to me again telling me I have 48hrs to respond. my response was send me one more thing in the mail, send me one more email and I wont renew next year. Im sorry for those that disagree with me but the NRA is just another business into it to make money. if the govt wants to do something they are the freaking govt and how can a business tell the people who run this country what they can and cant do. just MO

Nice to see a post that reflects intelligent thoughts instead of the "Sheep Syndrome."

 

[Arizona_Mike]

I generally stay out of these NRA-bashing threads but my girlfriend was reading over my shoulder, saw the title, and said "National Rifle Association, of course".

Mike

 

[mikestone967]

 

[mikestone967]

The fact that the anti-gunners are so worked up against the NRA, tells you all you need to know. It is the only organization that they're afraid of. That alone is enough reason to support the NRA.



The gun issue has never been more critical than it is now. Not at the time of the GCA '68, not at the time of the '94 AWB, not ever. This is it, folks. We all need to pull together, or lose our guns. It's that simple.

Wrong. On so many levels...

"When the Government fear the people, there is freedom.
When the people fear their Government, there is only tyranny."

It was the back room deals during the 34/38 GCA and the 68 GCA that the NRA sold out Your Rights. They have been and continue to be for "Reasonable GunControl" legislation.

I wonder if the Jews used this very same argument, just before being rounded up and put on trains...

"WE ARE AT THE BRINK OF 1933? THIS QUOTE BY 17 YEAR OLD SOPHIE SCHOLL, EXECUTED BY THE NAZIS FOR THE SAME THING WE ARE DOING..WAKE UP AMERICA

The real damage is done by those millions who want to 'survive.' The honest men who just want to be left in peace. Those who don’t want their little lives disturbed by anything bigger than themselves. Those with no sides and no causes. Those who won’t take measure of their own strength, for fear of antagonizing their own weakness. Those who don’t like to make waves—or enemies. Those for whom freedom, honor, truth, and principles are only literature. Those who live small, mate small, die small. It’s the reductionist approach to life: if you keep it small, you’ll keep it under control. If you don’t make any noise, the bogeyman won’t find you. But it’s all an illusion, because they die too, those people who roll up their spirits into tiny little balls so as to be safe. Safe?! From what? Life is always on the edge of death; narrow streets lead to the same place as wide avenues, and a little candle burns itself out just like a flaming torch does. I choose my own way to burn."

Sophie Scholl

 

[Frank Ettin]

....It was the back room deals during the 34/38 GCA and the 68 GCA that the NRA sold out Your Rights.....

Except you don't know your history.

• Until fairly recently the NRA was primarily a competition and sportsman organization. It wasn't until the late 1960s that the NRA really started to become politically active. In fact, the NRA is not the politically active organization. The political heavy lifting is done by the NRA Institute for Legislative Action.
  
  
• So in 1934, the focus of the NRA was its sportsman constituency. That was then, and this is now.
  
  
• The motivation for the enactment by Congress of the Gun Control Act of 1968 was the assassinations by gunfire of three wildly popular public figures: JFK; RFK; and MLK. In the political climate of the times absolutely nothing would have stopped that law.
  
  
  • But the original bill contained a number of particularly repugnant provisions, including:
    
    
    • A requirement that persons buying certain types of ammunition show ID.
      
      
    • A national gun registry.
      
      
    • A requirement that anyone carrying a gun be licensed.
    
    
  • These provisions were blocked by the NRA and not in the final law.
    
    
  • So without the NRA, the Gun Control Act of 1968 would have been worse than it is.
  
  
• As far as the Hughes Amendment goes, it became a choice between the Firearm Owners' Protection Act passing with the Hughes Amendment and the FOPA failing completely. As it is, the FOPA, even with the Hughes Amendment, provides that greatest benefit for the majority of gun owners, including the very useful provisions relating to interstate travel.
  
  
• The NRA was also able to get a sunset provision in Clinton's AWB. And the efforts of the NRA have been instrumental in preventing the AWB from being revived.

Politics is the art of the possible, not the art of the impossible. A "no compromise" gun lobby would not have stopped GCA68 or the AWB, and would most likely have killed the FOPA. And a "no compromise" gun lobby would have left us with a worse GCA68 and AWB still in effect.

 

[Robert]

Oh look an I hate the NRA thread, never seen one of these before...

Here's the deal, be a member if you want. Or dont. I don't really care, but we are not wasting more space on revisionist history and angry rants.