What goes up, must come down

[roofsc]

these are the bullets that i found in roofs this year.

sorry can't seem to post pic, any suggestions??

 

[TennJed]

while you are working on the pics can you give us a backstory? What kind of roofs? What part of the country

 

[roofsc]

let me try this, shingle roofs from greenville s.c.

 

[chicharrones]

How deep were those bullets in the roofs? In the shingle, the decking, . . . ?

 

[ngnrd]

I don't think that top one is a bullet.....

 

[Mike1234567]

I don't think that top one is a bullet.....

Of course not... that was dropped from the Empire State Building.

 

[Dr. Sandman]

Interesting that none are deformed.

 

[HoosierQ]

Interesting that it would seem none penetrated. I am pretty sure if you shot those straight down they would penetrate the roof and not be on the roof...or even in the roof...they'd be in the attic or the house!

Seems to be a pretty good bit of real world anecdotal information in terms of myth busting. Obviously, bullets don't hit the ground at the same speed that they left the muzzle which I think some people believe.

 

[Mike1234567]

^^^ I'd much rather be hit by a 30gr piece of lead at terminal velocity than a 1000gr piece of lead. It's not "just" speed.

 

[GlowinPontiac]

Pretty common in areas where shooting into the air is how people celebrate 4th of July and New Years.

Ive found them in my backyard before after hearing gunfire on New Years eve. Had a tarp set up as an awning and the bullet did not even penetrate the tarp when it came back down.

 

[Mike1234567]

Dang... what are the odds that a bullet would drop on the tarp you set up? Lucky lucky lucky.

Put your dog out there and let a .22LR drop on him at terminal velocity... probably won't hurt him much. Then let a bowling ball drop on him at terminal velocity. Hmm. Not very pretty. Poor dead doggy.

It's about velocity AND mass!!

EDIT: What, do you think, would have happened to your awning (and people under it) if a 10 pound bowling ball traveling at terminal velocity smacked it from above?

 

[KimberUltra]

Plus once the bullet stops spinning it may tumblr and slow down quite a bit. Depending on the angle fired

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

Greenville, SC, huh? My neck of the woods. (Simpsonville)

 

[roofsc]

the shiny copper was embedded in the asphalt, the exposed part is the tarnish dark areas. over the all the years of roofing (25) i have only seen one bullet that a homeowner said came through the shingles, decking and sheetrock and landed in the stairwell. when repairing the leak the decking was punctured from the outside going in. mostly there just into the shingles just enough to cause a small leak

howdy RetiredUSNChief, my office is up at whitehorse rd and 85 just up the road. i was in simpsonville twice today.
ps: like your cannon

 

[Mike1234567]

So if that round came down on your head...?

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

the shiny copper was embedded in the asphalt, the exposed part is the tarnish dark areas. over the all the years of roofing (25) i have only seen one bullet that a homeowner said came through the shingles, decking and sheetrock and landed in the stairwell. when repairing the leak the decking was punctured from the outside going in. mostly there just into the shingles just enough to cause a small leak

howdy RetiredUSNChief, my office is up at whitehorse rd and 85 just up the road. i was in simpsonville twice today.
ps: like your cannon

That's an end of the Greenville area I don't get to much, though I believe there's a DNR outdoor rifle range somewhere in that vicinity that we've thought about checking out. Somewhere near Easley, if I remember correctly.

 

[x_wrench]

I think that reloading your own ammo is very similar to making your own beer. It can be fun, educational, and may be a good skill to have in a pinch. Rarely, you can really come up with something special. Most of the time, however, better product is available for less money at the store, all things considered.

well, that depends. on how much you actually shoot, how good you get at loading, whether or not you use a good scientific method of loading, which includes good record keeping. personally, i shoot enough that my reloading equipment has been paid for from the savings. and in almost every gun i own, i can make better ammo than is available commercially. reloading can be cost effective, but certainly not to the person who shoots a few boxes or less per year. i shoot in the neighborhood of 10 k rounds per year (not including rimfire). i would never be able to afford to shoot that much buying cartridges at retail prices.

 

[roofsc]

http://www.dnr.sc.gov/shooting/pickens.html it's between easley and pickens, we shoot there often not far from where i live. nice pistol, 100 yard rifle and open skeet range, there are a couple of dove fields ( haven't tried those ) redid the facility about three years ago. used to have 200-yard range but a fellow out a trailer up about a mile behind range and they stopped and change to skeet range. oops also archery range FREE !!
ps: is staffed with a range officer, nice guys

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

Staffed, huh? Never been to a SC DNR range that was staffed. (Well...only been to a couple, at that: Twin Ponds and Philson Crossroads). I'll have to check Pickens out!

 

[Agsalaska]

So if that round came down on your head...?

I am almost certain when I was living in Vegas a young girl was killed on New Years eve by a falling bullet. I immediately questioned it in my mind for most of the reasons already posted but there were 15 or so witnesses.

 

[Warp]

Mythbusters has done this, BTW.

The morale of the story is don't shoot into the air, it's just stupid and dangerous, and people do get seriously injured as a result. Usually nothing happens...but sometimes it does.

 

[Twiki357]

A lot of idiots in this world. When I lived in Los Angeles, every January 2 or 3 and July 5 I would go up on the roof with a can of Wet Patch to collect at least 1 or 2 bullets and fill the holes. Generally just stuck into the asphalt shingles, but enough to cause a leak.

 

[jmr40]

Seems to be a pretty good bit of real world anecdotal information in terms of myth busting. Obviously, bullets don't hit the ground at the same speed that they left the muzzle which I think some people believe.

Not at the same speed, but often with enough force to kill or injure. It does happen.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/21/amish-girl-shooting-gun-cleaning_n_1162704.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1240433/Boy-killed-bullet-fired-2-miles-away.html

http://www.nbcsports.com/college-football/woman-hit-bullet-new-mexico-state-game

http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/08/virginia_boy_7_dies_from_stray.html

http://tbo.com/pinellas-county/st-p...g-bullet-says-it-could-have-killed-her-595782

 

[Willie Sutton]

"Obviously, bullets don't hit the ground at the same speed that they left the muzzle which I think some people believe."


A projectile fired straight up will return to earth at the velocity imparted on it by accelleration due to gravity, less it's aerodynamic drag. This means that it's going to be a pretty slow velocity, less than any needed to really hurt anyone. Think of it this way: At some point a vertically fired bullet reaches velocity = 0 at the top of it's trajectory (apogee). At that point it's just "being dropped from that height by the hand of God" to coin a phrase. It has no memory of it's formerly held velocity... it's just a pebble being dropped from a height. It MAY still be spinning from having been fired thru a rifled barrel.

This changes VERY VERY quickly though as the firing angle is lowered. By the time you lover the barrel to 60 degrees you have increased the velocity at apogee from zero to very substantial. It's still a bullet, not a dropped pebble, and folks underneith it are definately in harms way.


Willie

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[Shanghai McCoy]

When I had the siding replaced on my house the guy found a FMJ bullet in the fascia on the south side. Right over my bed room windows..!