Longgunman I agree with you on most of what you said. But the part "The one thing you need to remember about LEO's is that they want to be in charge and do not care who their master is as long as they get to enforce laws." Lets just say in my experience I've heard that several times before and never from some one who didnt have a long wrap sheet, low education and poor work history.
The only type of person who would call someone a criminal for questioning the virtue of an LEO is no doubt an LEO. For the record, I don't have a criminal record, my BAE is with honors and have served 26 years in the military. I know to a cop or a cop apologist that is meaningless and much like a criminal record, but to me it stands for something.
During the post Katrina mess in New Orleans, every member of every law enforcement group who wandered into the scene engaged in exactly what I spoke about. There is wonderful footage of cops beating an elderly woman and seizing her firearm for no particular reason except they had permission to disarm anyone they found. They made no distinction between an eighty y/o lady and a street thug.
As we speak there are thousands of illegally seized firearms in custody of the New Orleans police. They have been improperly tagged, improperly inventoried and no effort was made to store them correctly so they are all rusted and damaged. Quite a few were stomped or otherwise destroyed in front of their owners. To date they have made ZERO effort to return them to their owners. Why?
We can talk about LA riots and the lack of participation by the LAPD in protecting civilians safety and property if you like. It was similar to NOLA. Or we can talk about the Seattle WTO riots where cops pepper sprayed witnesses and reporters who saw them doing questionable things.
If you want to stick with Obamas infamous Chicage PD, well they do such a wonderful job that EVERY death penalty case in the state had to be communted because so many were tainted with questionable conduct by the PD. They had an officer beat a 110pound female bartender senseless for refusing to serve his drunk behind just last year. They have a program sponsored by the mayor that seizes parked cars and sells them off for profit, it is infamous for going after cars that are paid for and desirable as often as cars actually illegally parked. They even changed the law to allow them to retitle them without contacting the legal owner.
I stand by my original theory that those sworn to uphold the law will gladly uphold any law regardless of weither it is constitutional or morally justified. While a small percentage of officers may refuse, the majority won't.
My dear departed father (a WWII vet of the 101st, lifetime NRA member and not a criminal either) was not liberal nor was he the kind of guy to embrace all races. But he was right when he said justice was different when you are rich and white as opposed to poor and/or black in this country. He noted in many cases cops are more willing to exploit their power over citizens rather than insure it is used sparingly. The history of law enforcement in this country has more questionable chapters than you can imagine.
Socialists governments have always relied on a powerful police presence to enforce their will on the people. National police in Germany in the 1930's were controlled by Hitler's party. China, Russia, Albania, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Franco's Spain, Canada and most of South America rely on nationalized police to enforce the will of the government over the people.
When Obama calls for establishing a national police force, it is not lost on me what that means. Until he does, questioning law enforcement ethics is still allowed in this country.
Here is the quote of the day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fO-usAlqak