What I Was Told By A Manager At Walmart...

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...which I guess carries all the gravitas as reading something off the internet!
Anyway, according to this guy, Walmart in CA will stop selling ammunition when the new state laws kick in in 2018.
I was wondering if you folks in similar 2A challenged states (MA, NY, etc...) can corroborate if this scenario is expected to play out in their own Walmarts?
 
At this point they don't even have a sound grip on what is or isn't legal.

In further news, I heard from a guy at the gun store who was talking to his cousin in the FBI that they are considering buying 10mm 1911's made by Glock . . .

But, on topic, what management might have put out a year before the law goes into affect is one thing, what happens is another. Laws can change and if they do plan on it then store managers need to know ahead of time to prepare for the planogram and department remodeling that will have to occur in advance. What's going to take it's place, do we repurpose the glass cases, etc.

Gee, will they have to lay off some workers who no longer have a job handing over one box of .22 and escorting customers to the front door? : )
 
"Gee, will they have to lay off some workers who no longer have a job handing over one box of .22 and escorting customers to the front door? : ) "
your Walmart does that ? Here they have their own register at sport's dept., you pay directly, they bag the ammo for you and you can leave.
 
The current SOP is during third shift, (10pm-7am) they escort you to the front registers for ammo. During the day, yes you can pay at the Sporting Goods counter. As for stores in CA stopping selling ammo in 2018, if the new laws make it much harder to sell ammo, they just might.
 
Wal-Mart is in a tough spot. Their practices for hiring, promotion, and retention of employees works fine for low value goods with little in the way of legal implications or complications. But it works poorly when a certain level of knowledge or attention to detail is required.
 
John Joseph said:
...which I guess carries all the gravitas as reading something off the internet!
Anyway, according to this guy, Walmart in CA will stop selling ammunition when the new state laws kick in in 2018.
I was wondering if you folks in similar 2A challenged states (MA, NY, etc...) can corroborate if this scenario is expected to play out in their own Walmarts?
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Pleeease stop giving free advertising to walmart on these forums.
 
dekibg said:
"Gee, will they have to lay off some workers who no longer have a job handing over one box of .22 and escorting customers to the front door? : ) "
your Walmart does that ? Here they have their own register at sport's dept., you pay directly, they bag the ammo for you and you can leave.
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They do that at our local stores as there is rarely an employee who has access to the register in sporting goods- even if they can eventually find someone with keys to the ammo cabinet.
 
PabloJ said:
Pleeease stop giving free advertising to walmart on these forums.
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Ahhhh.... I go to Walmart at least once weekly. Advertising or not, I couldn't care less and I feel they provide an excellent store environment and generally favorable pricing. On 22 ammo, I don't even look any more in the sporting goods area.

Walmart and all stores are there to sell things. If the hassle factor or liability is too high, they will stop selling them. Stopping selling ammo in CA does not surprise me in the least.
 
One of the Wally stores i go to in Florida (manager Gun counter) told me that they quit selling AR 15's because coorprate told them the item was not selling.....Then he said it was really the best selling rifle on the rack, "but i do just what i am told". That was last winter.... I think over time they will just back out of the gun business completely....
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Walmart and all stores are there to sell things. If the hassle factor or liability is too high, they will stop selling them. Stopping selling ammo in CA does not surprise me in the least.
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Gotta totally agree with rimfire on this one....
 
I honestly don't blame them. I'd hate to see my profits and job take a hit if it came out that I sold a gun/ammo to a mass shooter. That's not the kind of publicity Academy wants, for instance...
 
Lot of it has to do with how much BS paperwork it causes or is required by government to sell firearm related stuff. Back in '78, when our laws first got really stupid, a lot of retailers just got out of firearms altogether. Not worth the government BS required.
"...talking to his cousin..." Wasn't it his second cousin's, buddy's, brother-in-law, who is a Justice Department 'operator'?
 
John Joseph said:
...which I guess carries all the gravitas as reading something off the internet!
Anyway, according to this guy, Walmart in CA will stop selling ammunition when the new state laws kick in in 2018.
I was wondering if you folks in similar 2A challenged states (MA, NY, etc...) can corroborate if this scenario is expected to play out in their own Walmarts?
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Walmart in Los Angeles already doesn't sell ammo.

If they are going to stop selling it in the rest of CA it is because of the new rule requiring background checks to buy ammo. (For anyone who's been living in a cave for the past year, I am not making this up, it is a new law here that takes effect January 1st.) I can't blame them for not wanting to hassle with the paperwork.

Personally I'm moving to Arizona.
 
walmart really hates liability, and usually only authorizes salaried managers to approve 4473's, and ammo is more of a -get them in the store to buy more stuff- item anyway. Sometimes it takes an hour to find a manager to do a gunsale, sometimes they don't have one who can do it on that day, and they tell the person to come back when they're in. I can't see them going through that for a 9$ ammo sale.
 
dekibg said:
"Gee, will they have to lay off some workers who no longer have a job handing over one box of .22 and escorting customers to the front door? : ) "
your Walmart does that ? Here they have their own register at sport's dept., you pay directly, they bag the ammo for you and you can leave.
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yup
 
dirtman said:
One of the Wally stores i go to in Florida (manager Gun counter) told me that they quit selling AR 15's because coorprate told them the item was not selling.....Then he said it was really the best selling rifle on the rack, "but i do just what i am told". That was last winter.... I think over time they will just back out of the gun business completely....


Gotta totally agree with rimfire on this one....
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Walmart bases their sales numbers on the national level. So if your store can sell 100 rifles in a day, but everyone else sells one a month, they won't supply your store. The walmart here sells its entire stock of D.E.F. fluid, Mobile synthetic -especially in odd weights like 0w40, or 5w60, and a few other things that don't move fast in other stores due to our closeness to the Canada border, where European cars, and diesels are far more common, but the corporate supply chain won't let them reorder, because they don't sell enough of it in Spokane or Olympia. So they get in a few hundred gallons, sell them all in a day, and wait a few weeks or months to get more. Same with everything else in the store. For what its worth, 6920's were sitting on the shelves unsold after the panic eased. They had to mark them down to 600$ - yes, six hundred even to get them out to make room for the mossy and remis that corporate told them to carry. From the high level I was told thats how rifle sales were in most states. You cant make money selling a thousand colts at 600, even if a few stores get 900$
 
Gosh, I hope walmart continues to sell ammo at all and guns at some locations. If they stop I will not know what to do.:uhoh: I do not know how we got along w/o having a walmart in every neighborhood. It will be just like going back in time when one had to get out to crank the thingy in front of engine before the car engine could start.:eek:
 
Rocketmedic said:
I honestly don't blame them. I'd hate to see my profits and job take a hit if it came out that I sold a gun/ammo to a mass shooter. That's not the kind of publicity Academy wants, for instance...
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Academy didn't have anything to do with that shooting. They sold a rifle according to the law. I can't see any bad publicity coming from selling a rifle to a felon when he passed the NICS background check.

Are you going to drag Ruger and the company that made the ammo that the shooter used into this also?
 
CoalTrain49 said:
Academy didn't have anything to do with that shooting. They sold a rifle according to the law. I can't see any bad publicity coming from selling a rifle to a felon when he passed the NICS background check.

Are you going to drag Ruger and the company that made the ammo that the shooter used into this also?
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Now now stop that

You know that’s using logic, reason and common sense. Our enemies hate that and will use shaming, lies, and whatever to fight logic and reason. They say “by any means necessary”.

That said, I’m not sure how we help businesses see the benefit of doing business with us, vs folding to the insanity of the anti 2nd Amend. Nuts.
 
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