What is the best HI Power clone for the $$$?
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WonderNine
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If you can get an FEG Hi-Power clone for $200, you're doing good. Otherwise, I would save a few bucks and get the real thing. The Argentines, aren't that much cheaper IMO to consider them over a NIB Browning.
Bob Locke
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All the people I know with FEG's are happy with them.
WhoKnowsWho
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There was a FM manufactured HP used like new at a shop here... should have picked it up for $249. I didn't know they normally sell for about $75 to $100 more. Maybe look for one of those.
The original FEG PJK-9HP series is one I always here good things about. One of the best deals. Too bad they were all $279 or so at a recent show, and I think I have seen one once in a local shop in the past year or two.
The original FEG PJK-9HP series is one I always here good things about. One of the best deals. Too bad they were all $279 or so at a recent show, and I think I have seen one once in a local shop in the past year or two.
Kahr carrier
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The FEG PJK-9HP BHP clone that three of my buddies got are flawless shooters still.
Wouldn't mind owning one myself...
IIRC, there's another FEG BHP clone. Can't remember what model, but reports I 've read about it were not favorable.
Just be sure you've got the PJK, and you're ok to go!
Wouldn't mind owning one myself...
IIRC, there's another FEG BHP clone. Can't remember what model, but reports I 've read about it were not favorable.
Just be sure you've got the PJK, and you're ok to go!
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FEG PJK-9HP! Great BHP clone.
jar
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I own the FEG PJK 9HP, the ARCUS 94 and the FM M-95 HiPower ans well as Browning HiPowers and my FM gets the most range time by far.
SteveA
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First Post - FEG PJK-9HP
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Been around for a while but have been sitting on the fence whether I wanted to register and post here. I'm 57 year old, retired military, a Viet Nam vet and have a fairly low tolerance level with BS and in-fighting on gun forums. I look at gun forums to discuss guns - not argue. I admit I have seen a few posts that almost steered me away but you see them everywhere.
The High Road seems to have a much higher number of clear thinking adults and less in-fighting cliques than a lot that I've seen. I think I'll like it here. Thanks a ton to the moderators and creators of the site for making it available.
I do a good deal of part-time in one of our local gun shops. We see a lot of "copy" guns. Most are "cheap" and certainly look and perform like it. I own several name guns, including a couple Browning Hi-Powers. Around Christmas, SOG had a flyer special that we decided to check out on the FEG, and I ordered one extra for myself.
What a surprise!
The criticizm I have of the Browning HP is exactly the same that I have for the FEG. Crummy grips, crummy trigger, [and that's being generous] and of course the magazine safety.
Fit and finish of the FEG is superb. The bluing is deep, rich and appears to be an excellent finish.
I put Hogues on it, polished the ramp and worked the trigger down to a comfortable 3 1/2 pounds. Once everything was polished up - it's really smooth and easy to both shoot and stay on target. So far, I've run 4 boxes of Win USA9JHP's through it and have had no fail to feed, no fail to fires. I'm using hi-caps from Argentina and once they are polished up a bit so they fit properly, they function flawlessly - so far.
It's on a par with what I can shoot with my Brownings as far as accuracy.
Also seems to tolerate a limp wristed shooter well. A buddy that's not really a handgunner took a couple shots and had no problem with it. He's clearly a limp wrister.
I've seen a couple of the other HP clones and they were no where near the quality of the FEG.
I highly recommend them. What you pay for what you get is very good.
Guess this is as good a place as any to make my presence known and introduce myself.
Been around for a while but have been sitting on the fence whether I wanted to register and post here. I'm 57 year old, retired military, a Viet Nam vet and have a fairly low tolerance level with BS and in-fighting on gun forums. I look at gun forums to discuss guns - not argue. I admit I have seen a few posts that almost steered me away but you see them everywhere.
The High Road seems to have a much higher number of clear thinking adults and less in-fighting cliques than a lot that I've seen. I think I'll like it here. Thanks a ton to the moderators and creators of the site for making it available.
I do a good deal of part-time in one of our local gun shops. We see a lot of "copy" guns. Most are "cheap" and certainly look and perform like it. I own several name guns, including a couple Browning Hi-Powers. Around Christmas, SOG had a flyer special that we decided to check out on the FEG, and I ordered one extra for myself.
What a surprise!
The criticizm I have of the Browning HP is exactly the same that I have for the FEG. Crummy grips, crummy trigger, [and that's being generous] and of course the magazine safety.
Fit and finish of the FEG is superb. The bluing is deep, rich and appears to be an excellent finish.
I put Hogues on it, polished the ramp and worked the trigger down to a comfortable 3 1/2 pounds. Once everything was polished up - it's really smooth and easy to both shoot and stay on target. So far, I've run 4 boxes of Win USA9JHP's through it and have had no fail to feed, no fail to fires. I'm using hi-caps from Argentina and once they are polished up a bit so they fit properly, they function flawlessly - so far.
It's on a par with what I can shoot with my Brownings as far as accuracy.
Also seems to tolerate a limp wristed shooter well. A buddy that's not really a handgunner took a couple shots and had no problem with it. He's clearly a limp wrister.
I've seen a couple of the other HP clones and they were no where near the quality of the FEG.
I highly recommend them. What you pay for what you get is very good.
Tropical Z
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The FEG FP-9 is the best,but probably wont be found much nowadays.Pjk-9hp is great and im betting the P9M (?) that SOG has works fine like any other FEG.I tried to order in an Arcus from Aim but theyre all gone.They are the coolest looking,but a few years ago,some of them had extractor issues.I wanted to give one a go.
Longbow
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The Kareen that AIM surplus sells is a good one too. They are about the same price as the FEG. Its a True clone all parts interchange w/ the BHP.
Beorn
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So, where would I go about finding one of these clones? Any on-line information would be excellent.
Do you think it would make a good ESP category IDPA pistol?
Do you think it would make a good ESP category IDPA pistol?
Zip06
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I have three High Powers, one is an Argentine FM. It is a clone but is licensed by FN, built on FN machinery in Roseria, Argentina. Mine is about 8 years old and is a copy of the Mark II. Finish is crude but function is perfect. I have about 2300 rounds through this pistol with no malfunctions what so ever. Sights are small, safety is stiff, gun looks like it lost the Falklands War but it was worth the price. The price was about the same as the FEG's mentioned in other posts. Accuracy is worse than the Browning I have but is certainly acceptable. I consider this firearm an excellent buy for the $200 I paid for it. I know nothing of the FEG, Arcus or Kareen.
Longbow
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AIM has 'em in their dealer's flyer a couple months ago. Just call and ask about it.
I've seen them at the shows for $350. But dealer price is much lower of course.
I've seen them at the shows for $350. But dealer price is much lower of course.
HIPOWER
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Purely in terms of quality for the dollar, I think the FEG is very hard to beat in the realm of HP clones. I have one that shoots like a champ and has not malfunctioned in about 700 rounds. It's quite a gun for 250.00 or so, sometimes less. I also have a Browning HP and honestly don't think it functions any better, although the fit and finish is more refined. I'd have no problem trusting my FEG for carry or home defense, and often do.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Probably the BEST clone ever made was the SA-80 by Mauser (of course there are those that claim the Mauser was actually MADE in Hungary by FEG.. and they are probably right.)
Not all FEG PJK 9HP's are the same. The first models were true clones but you'd see less than stellar bluing and machine marks. However they still shoot great.
The newer models have MUCH better blueing, fit and finish, however they seem to be making simpler machining processes on the slide. In fact some FEG's (marked PJK 9HP) have a different barrel lock-up. Shop around to make sure you get a true "clone".
I use my FEG clone for IDPA and it's the most likely I'd use to defend myself.
Not all FEG PJK 9HP's are the same. The first models were true clones but you'd see less than stellar bluing and machine marks. However they still shoot great.
The newer models have MUCH better blueing, fit and finish, however they seem to be making simpler machining processes on the slide. In fact some FEG's (marked PJK 9HP) have a different barrel lock-up. Shop around to make sure you get a true "clone".
I use my FEG clone for IDPA and it's the most likely I'd use to defend myself.
Marko Kloos
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Yep. The SA-80 was a FEG finished to a higher standard and branded with the Mauser logo. The German distributor Frankonia sold them under the Mauser brand, but they made clear in the catalog description that these were Hungarian guns...albeit finished to Mauser standards and priced accordingly.
2xTap
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Go with the FEG PJK-9HP, have one myself for a while now and am quite impressed with it. Costed me $219 NIB and only added some checkered Mahogany grips, hex-head gripscrews, and a extrapower Wolff recoil spring. The triggers on these geta hell of alot better once the mag-disconnect is removed, and the guns shot some. So far mine has been flawless:
Even if I hadn't gotten such a great deal on a NIB Arcus 94, [$208.00 cash with 2 10 rnd mags, bore clean rod, paperwork with function test certificate] it would be my current choice in a NEW BHP, clone or not. I'd buy 2 Arcus 94 even if the price was around $300.
The fit and finish is FAR better than my Argentine FM I purchased in the mid '90's. The FM has a couple of areas on the frame, along "junction lines" where the metal is rough. The Arcus 94 is equal to my previous 2 Brownings (had to part with for $$$... ) in finish quality, and BETTER than the BHP's with a sweet, tight frame to slide fit. My FM is now my BHP "Project Gun".
The Arcus combat sights are low like the FM's, but are easily improved with high visibility enamel and a 00/000 retouch brush into the 3-dots.
The trigger has a crisp break and will of course improve in feel as soon as I defeat the mag safety.
The supplied rubber grips SUCK in feel and looks. I installed the Pachmayer knock-off from my FM.
The cosmetic foward angle cuts in the slide, frame and trigger guard obviously preclude the use of a formed BHP style holster, but works great in many med to full size auto system rigs such as the Mil-Tech shoulder rig. And those matching angles fore and aft, give the gun a cool, "forward-leaning all-business" look that will grow on you.
I don't know where some of the detractors from Firing Line posts got their info as to metal quality and +P loads, etc., because the Arcus is a SUBSTANTIAL (heavy) gun in mass and design. And there were NO warnings in my supplied paperwork as to +P/Hot loads, and no such warnings from credible sources I could find on the net [if there are such, please advise].
I really like the two-tone look, the oversized safety, and the squared and "cut" trigger guard.
I WILL eventually replace at least one of my Brownings, but this Arcus 94 is SWEEEET.
BTW, my "good-buddy" dealer said that the FEG's he had ordered
recently were NOTHING like the FEG's he had sold in the late '90's, so he no longer stocks 'um...for what it's worth.
Be a good patriot and buy an Arcus...made in Bulgaria, one of our "NEW EUROPE" Allies, and possible future home to US bases!
CS
The fit and finish is FAR better than my Argentine FM I purchased in the mid '90's. The FM has a couple of areas on the frame, along "junction lines" where the metal is rough. The Arcus 94 is equal to my previous 2 Brownings (had to part with for $$$...
) in finish quality, and BETTER than the BHP's with a sweet, tight frame to slide fit. My FM is now my BHP "Project Gun".The Arcus combat sights are low like the FM's, but are easily improved with high visibility enamel and a 00/000 retouch brush into the 3-dots.
The trigger has a crisp break and will of course improve in feel as soon as I defeat the mag safety.
The supplied rubber grips SUCK in feel and looks. I installed the Pachmayer knock-off from my FM.
The cosmetic foward angle cuts in the slide, frame and trigger guard obviously preclude the use of a formed BHP style holster, but works great in many med to full size auto system rigs such as the Mil-Tech shoulder rig. And those matching angles fore and aft, give the gun a cool, "forward-leaning all-business" look that will grow on you.
I don't know where some of the detractors from Firing Line posts got their info as to metal quality and +P loads, etc., because the Arcus is a SUBSTANTIAL (heavy) gun in mass and design. And there were NO warnings in my supplied paperwork as to +P/Hot loads, and no such warnings from credible sources I could find on the net [if there are such, please advise].
I really like the two-tone look, the oversized safety, and the squared and "cut" trigger guard.
I WILL eventually replace at least one of my Brownings, but this Arcus 94 is SWEEEET.
BTW, my "good-buddy" dealer said that the FEG's he had ordered
recently were NOTHING like the FEG's he had sold in the late '90's, so he no longer stocks 'um...for what it's worth.
Be a good patriot and buy an Arcus...made in Bulgaria, one of our "NEW EUROPE" Allies, and possible future home to US bases!
CS
FEG PJK & P9M
Is there a difference between the FEG-PJK and the FEG-PM9?
I found a great deal on the PM9. I've seen the PJK discussed, but not the PM9.
It seems these Hungarian Hi Powers are pretty good. Has anyone seen the compact conversions?
Is there a difference between the FEG-PJK and the FEG-PM9?
I found a great deal on the PM9. I've seen the PJK discussed, but not the PM9.
It seems these Hungarian Hi Powers are pretty good. Has anyone seen the compact conversions?
jar
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Yes there are lots of differences. The biggest one is the barrel lockup on the two are entirely different. The PJK 9HP uses the standard HP lockup while the other is a three lug IIRC. They are both great shooters though.
2xTap
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ah,
The camming interface on the barrels is also different between the two. The PJK-9HP will accept aftermarket HP barrels, it's the closest of the two to an original BHP.
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The camming interface on the barrels is also different between the two. The PJK-9HP will accept aftermarket HP barrels, it's the closest of the two to an original BHP.
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