What is this piece called that broke off my bow?

[jcerillo70]

I shot my bow today after its yearly hibernation.

First shot shattered my carbon arrow and broke this little black rubber cord that connects the peep sight to the string.

Any idea what the broken black rubber cord is called so i can order a new one?



Thanks guys!

Joe

 

[rcmodel]

I believe this is what you seek.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunt...eep-sights/_/N-1100043&WTz_l=SEO;cat103977180

rc

 

[jcerillo70]

RC to the rescue as always. Thanks man

 

[jcerillo70]

Any idea what this actually does for the bow? i shot it a couple times with it being broken and i was still dead on

 

[Ridgerunner665]

It ensures that the peep hole is turned so you can look through it with the bow drawn.

 

[jbkebert]

The only thing it does is keep your peep sight in line with your sights. Just wait until one snaps while your at full draw. Yeouch.

Depending one the string your using you may not need the tubing. For hunting purposes I like a larger peep anyway. The peep sights that just go into the string and do not use tubing IMHO work better.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunt...Rprd745696&WTz_l=SBC;BRprd745696;cat103977180

 

[jbkebert]

I am concerned about the shattered carbon arrow. What happened?

 

[jcerillo70]

after release, i look at my foam block thinking ****... did the arrow go in backwards?Wheres the fletching?

I walk up to it, and half the arrow is there. the rest shattered either in the air or on impact. i didn't see it anywhere.

I've never experienced anything like that. they were Carbon Express Terminator Hunter arrows.

 

[jbkebert]

Your arrow was broken before it was shot. Gently flex your arrows back and forth. If you hear a cracking sound pitch them. The only other thing is are you shooting the right spine of arrow for your draw weight and length? You are dang lucky you didn't blow up your bow or end up with a forearm full of carbon shards.

 

[jbkebert]

Your bow from what I can see appears to be a Jennings buckmaster. The zebra twist string that is on it. Will be better served with the type of peep sight you are currently using. You have a pretty good bow there no reason in the world it do what you ask it to.

Although if I am right about the bow being either a Jennings or the later version produced by bear archery. It's probably time to be looking at a new string. That bow has not been produced for 6-7 years now. I replace my string every year and my cables every two years.

 

[jcerillo70]

I know the length was right, the strength I'm not sure on. I bought them as singles out of the good old walmart bucket of arrows.(expensive bucket)But I've shot these without problems before. Maybe it was just a bad arrow. They're only a year old

 

[jcerillo70]

Lol it is a Jennings buckmaster !!! I bought it 4 years ago new. Shot it maybe 50 times. It's deadly accurate. It was my first big purchase out of high school.

It was the only bow long enough for my arms, I guess it got discontinued so it was in sale for like $450+ fitting if I remember right.

But I do see some fraying in the string. But very minor. I'll have to bring her for a checkup

 

[jbkebert]

Depending on your draw length and weight as stated earlier you should shooting Carbon express 200's or possibly even 300's. If the shaft says 100's get rid of them. They are for kids bows and do not absorb enough energy from the bow. Or in your case possibly to much energy. Shooting the wrong spine of arrow is bad bad news. Like I stated before you will either blow your bow up or end up with a forearm full of splinters and shards.

Since the buckmaster was only made in a 60# and a 70# version with plus or minus around 8 pounds either way safely. Assuming a 29" draw which is fairly common you would be right on the borderline between the 200-300 arrow.
http://www.patnorrisarchery.com/carbon_express.htm

 

[jcerillo70]

I'm a 32 draw length, Looks like I'm with the 400's

Thanks for all the info brother! Now the arrow hunt begins

 

[jbkebert]

I shoot gold tip 75/95's good arrows

http://www.goldtip.com/arrowcontent.aspx?page=chart

 

[jcerillo70]

as far as arrow rest go,
whats a good one that wont let the arrow fall off while im drawing. I see mixed reviews for the whisper biscuit, but it looks like it would work

 

[BRad704]

I love the whisker biscuits... Drop away people will talk crap about them, but I am sliding arrows in the block with shafts touching. I have zero complaints...

Good point on flexing the arrows first! And Dick's Sporting goods has most of their arrows on sale right now. I got a dozen GT Devastator 5575's for $45 this weekend. at 32", you may not even have to cut them down. But I am shooting a Parker Extreme Hunter Mag at 29" and 63lbs.

 

[jbkebert]

I shoot a whisker biscuit rest and love them.

The 55/75 arrows by gold tip mentioned about are too light for a 32" draw. What kind of poundage are you shooting?

 

[jcerillo70]

Im not sure... I wanna say 60,

 

[Bobson]

Jcerillo, I'd swing by an archery pro shop sometime soon, and take your bow with you (and I'd bring an arrow too). They'll be able to check your string for you, check your draw weight, ensure your draw length is correctly set, etc.

They should also be able to help you pick the right arrows (as far as length and width) based on your draw length, draw weight, etc.

I just got a Bear bow about six weeks ago. I'm shooting at 70 lbs, with a 29" draw. The guy who sold me the bow and set it up cut my arrows to the proper length, and told me that based on my draw weight and length, I should be using 300-width arrows. He was super helpful and full of information in general. I'd try and find someone like that. Shouldn't be too difficult.

Edit: BTW, what does that 300/400 number represent? Is it "0.300" and "0.400", as in, "3/10" or "2/5" of an inch?

 

[jbkebert]

The 300 or 400 is Carbon express's way of labeling spine. The internal diameter and the external diameter is the same between a 100,200, and 300. The density of the carbon fiber strands and how tightly they are wrapped determine the spine of a arrow. Spine could be loosly translated into the amount of deflection a arrow can withstand.

All arrows need to deflect somewhat. This helps the arrow absorb the huge amount of energy produced by a compound bow. Even a long bow or the recurve prouduce a large amount but nothing like a compound. A arrow with to stiff of a spine will not deflect and there is a loss of energy. Also the arrow will in most cases not preform accuratly. An arrow with to little spine whips like a snake coming out of a bow. The deflection can cause what I suspect in the OP case. The arrow actually breaking in flight. Also a arrow that is not stiff enough for the bow to really push against in time will be the same as dry firing a bow.

You might get away with it once. You might get away with it 100 times but sooner or later the limbs on your bow will crack or worse case shatter.

At the bottom is a good video of the torque placed on a arrow in flight. You will always have some but you need to control how much.
http://www.flexfletch.com/interactive/articles/the-mechanics-of-arrow-flight/

Now when it comes to archery go to a pro-shop. Wal-mart is not the place to buy archery equipment. As for the OP having very long arms there is no way in the world Wally World or Dicks will have what he needs.

 

[jcerillo70]

Thanks brother! There's a good place in the next town that is supposed to be the go to place for custom archery stuff. I'll have to pay him a visit.

 

[jbkebert]

Let us know how thing progress. We need pictures of something down.

By the way the Jennings Buckmaster bow. Fell victim to being ahead of its time. Perhaps by 5-10 years ahead of its time. The technology just wasn't perfected at the time. The recurved limbs and perimeter weighted cam design was considered pretty radical. I had the opportunity on a few occasions to meet Tom Jennings. The founder of Jennings archery. I was at a 3-D competition and he was there touting his new design. There happened to be a LH version on the table and I asked to shoot it. It wasn't 20 minutes later I was handing him money for the bow. I have been shooting archery for going on 27 years now. I still own two Jennings buckmasters. They are darn near impossible to make super quiet like some of todays bows. Who cares I took well over 40 big game animals with one. Not one critter complained of being offended by the slight noise.

I just got back from a bowhunt in TX. The ranch owner asked us if we wanted to stalk two asian water buffalo that have turned flat mean. The 2300# animals are charging trucks and have killed a few animals that have gotten to close to their turf. I took my Mathews switchback to TX with me shooting 52#. If I would of taken my Buckmaster at 68# I would of smoked that buff. I always had complete confidence in the bow. In short I am trying to say while its not the newest, fastest, glitiest bow on the market. There are few made better at any price.