What light is on your AR?

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One thing I would add is that while the Millet scope rings work, the VLTOR, Viking Tactical, etc. mounts that are made specifically for the G2 work better and I think the cost is only about $10 more.

I've had issues with the G2 popping out of the Millet rings. It isn't an insurmountable problem; but the polymer body of the G2 is pretty spongy so you really need to cinch it tight if you are using scope rings and you need to loctite the mount screws. When I was first playing with this mount, I would have the scope rings tightened until I thought it was going to squeeze the G2 in half and you could see it visibly constricting the polymer and it would still pop out if the scope rings loosened even a little bit from shooting vibration. Some people also use tape to get a better fit.
 
I just recently put an Insight Technology M6 on an AR with their handguard (Glock) rail mount. At the same time that I purchased the mount I got their remote, but I think I'm more comfortable just using my finger on the backplate switch.
 
2 things with that one.

1) If you are using a rifle for home defense and you don't have a light then you are crazy. Any weapon you use for home defense should have some kind of light, so I think it's great the OP is looking for one. The "rifles for home defense" topic has been beaten to death and it's clearly the conventional wisdom so no need to hash that out again.

No I am not and no I won't so a completely moot point. The OP said nothing about home defense. He said he was looking to mount a light, so please excuse yourself from editing MY thoughts. I can do that on my own.

2) On a target with 8 inch letters I can read the letters from 100 yards out with my Surefire in total darkness.

I had the 225 lumen bulb in, could identify the target at 100 yards and closer
Friend of mine, Techbrute from THR here had the 120 lumen bulb in his, he could identify the target at about 60-70 yards and closer.

We did this during the low light portion of a carbine class. The restriction was you could only engage the target after telling the instructor what letter was on your target.

I'd say those are certainly appropriate ranges for a carbine.

Well if I ever need someone to identify 8" tall letters instead of faces and small details like is that a gun or a cellphone, I know who to call. :rolleyes:
 
. The OP said nothing about home defense. He said he was looking to mount a light,


What he said was "I am trying to set up an AR with a tactical light." That ain't for deer hunting unless you're worried the deer are gonna shoot back.

Nothing I will ever shoot with a rifle is close enough to be illuminated by a flashlight.

This is your helpful quote of the day? Why bother posting in this thread at all then?
 
Rifleman. You got a problem with me in particular or are you just a dick to everyone you disagree with?

He said TACTICAL LIGHT. Not tactical build. I read what he wrote and don't try to guess what he means beyond what he types. Makes things a lot clearer for me. I have a tactical light on a .460 Rowland. Doesn't mean it is a primary defense weapon. It means I can hunt pigs in the dark.

Tactical Light TO ME... simply means the type of lights that everyone is showing. OP made no mention of his intents or uses.



And yes that is my helpful quote of the day. It apparently got your gray matter out of neutral. Not enough to figure out that I am not coming from the same place he is or you are and that MY uses for a rifle are hunting and not home defense.

Anything else I can spell out for you that you can't grasp on your own???
 
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I read what he wrote and don't try to guess what he means

The guy asked about lights, you offered no information on lights, but added that you didn't see the need for a light on a rifle, including the :uhoh: "uh oh".

So, I explained a possible use for a light on a rifle and that people had experiences where lights were effective at some pretty decent ranges.

Why'd that upset you to the point that you fall back to the name calling as your defense?
 
I did offer some information. You apparently didn't think it worthy of your consideration or you didn't understand that my smilie face meant it was in jest.

You offered information that means exactly nothing to me when you talk about self defense. I have no intention of going outside and trying to shoot 8" tall letters off of bad guys.

None of it upset me. I am just rather surprised that you felt the need to single me out even after I have reclarified my position.


Why don't you answer questions that are asked of you instead of changing the subject?


ETA: Why do you keep changing your responses after the notifications have already gone out without editing them openly? What are you trying to hide?
 
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I have reclarified my position.

Where'd you do that? You didn't, and still haven't, offered to help the guy find a light, which was the point of the thread.

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Why do you keep changing your responses
Sometimes I notice that things might not be so high road so I take them out, which you apparently don't do since you have moved to personal attacks.
 
Nope. I pretty much say what I mean and mean what I say. My thought for the day was quite clear to me... simplisticly in fact. And perhaps some others might benefit from another different point of view - an open dialogue if you will - that I do not have any use for a light on a rifle but apparently a lot of other people do. :uhoh:.... see .... that's called H U M O R.

1. I don't hunt with them (there... that is that other perspective I mentioned)
2. And I don't generally consider them a good choice for home protection when there are a myriad of other, much better choices.

So your original point 1 I replied to was completely off MY tangent and thus moot. Your point 2 was completely irrelevant to MY point of view which you chose to ignore. Apparently name calling got your attention because clear written responses did not after you used a deragatory term to me first. And yes 'crazy' is not nice.

HR enough for you?

I'm done. You win. I don't want to play word games with you and I have now had to re-explain my explanation. I apparently have completely lost my ability to type in clear, concise, open dialogue. ....... ooooooor maybe not.... :p
 
I am looking at a Surefire 6P or a G2. Do I want an LED or incandescent bulb? The LED seems to put out higher lumens, and the battery life is longer. Is there a drawback?

Will an LED beam go out as far as an incandescent beam?
 
I use a surefire G3 (I dunno, $50?), mounted in a cheap set of walmart rings ($10) on a tacticool FSB mount from CDNN ($20).

I added a tac-star tape swich for cheap when I put the setup on a dissy. The FSB was farther away, harder to reach the tailcap.

I havent had any problems with my G3 popping out of the rings, however I will mention that the stock tailcap on my G2 would work loose when firing. So if you use a simular setup, I reccomend finding a spot where you like the tailcap and putting some sealant, RTV (gasket in a tube), or something on the threads to keep it tight if you cant clamp the ring over it. You can still change the batteries, just take the lamp out.

When I go to a FF forend, or just add a rail to the bottom of my HGs, and get a VFG I'll go with an offset mount like the viking tactical to put the light at 7:30 so I can hit the tailcap switch with my thumb (I shoot from the wrong shoulder, so that would be about 4:30 for you right handed folks).
 
I currently use an Insight M3X 125 Lumen incandescent bulb mounted at 6 O'Clock. This light has done double duty on my AR and Benelli M1S90. I also use it for beaver/muskrat control on the Benelli on my pond. So far after a couple low-light classes, and some hunting, it’s still on the same bulb.

I also have one mounted on my nightstand gun. I like the ability to move it from gun to gun if need be and still have the same controls. As much as I like the M3X I’m thinking of ordering the new Surefire X300, same setup as the M3X but with the LED the batteries lasts a lot longer.

Chuck
 
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