What model to start competing with?

Which model to start competing with?

  • Glock 34

    Votes: 21 25.3%

  • Springfield XDm 5.25

    Votes: 14 16.9%

  • CZ 75 (SA or one of their Competition Models)

    Votes: 26 31.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 22 26.5%
  • Total voters
    83
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He is looking at doing a production class category to see how well he likes it,
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My question is, does he already own a gun that is allowed in those events?
I always recommend you give it a try with something you already have and are familiar with instead of spending money and having to learn a new gun while you learn the rules and techniques.
About any 9mm, .40, .45, or .38/.357 will get him started.
He can see if he likes the game and watch other shooters to see what is being used.
 
I voted Glock 34! Great gun! I have used one in uspsa. It has a lighter trigger pull, shorter reset and very accurate. Its also very dependable and it points well.
I believe it was designed for competition.
 
To Jim, his only pistol right now is a Ruger P345. He wants to use a 9mm for ammo cost right now.
 
Since you said your buddy wants to shoot in production class, he's stuck with one of the flimsy plastic guns for now, or if he wants to spend a little more money, a Sig DAO or DA/SA. You'll notice that the overall winners in most IDPA matches lately have been CDP (.45 acp 1911) or ESP which is dominated by 1911's and their "2011" clones since no one has yet come up with a trigger system that approaches the single action 1911 trigger.
 
Springfield Range Officer

My pick was other, it would be the Springfield Range Officer for a stock 45 production class pistol.
 
You'll notice that the overall winners in most IDPA matches lately have been CDP (.45 acp 1911) or ESP which is dominated by 1911's and their "2011" clones since no one has yet come up with a trigger system that approaches the single action 1911 trigger.
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Really? Not to argue the point too far but the best score at IDPA Nationals in 2010 was shot by the SSP division champion, who beat the CDP and ESP Masters' times by about 9 seconds using a Glock.

The exact same thing happened in 2009.

In 2008, the SSP Division champion only beat the ESP champion by about 5 seconds.
In that same match, Dave Olhasso won CDP Division Champion. He beat all the other Master class 1911 shooters. But he was shooting a .45ACP S&W M&P! (I was present for that one.)

If you go back to 2007, the ESP Division Champion actually did beat all the SSP guys.

But Nationals isn't the only match of the year, of course. Maybe taking a wider sampling of local and regional matches would see a different result. Still, looking at who wins the "best of the best" match is instructive.
 
I voted CZ 75 SA
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The OP said "Production" class. Cocked and locked is illegal in USPSA production class. The CZ SA can be used in limited 10 or higher, but not effectively as a stock pistol.

USPSA "Production" class is limited to DA revolver, DA/SA or striker fired pistols. 9mm is the only "practical" round to use.
 
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" ... the best score at IDPA Nationals in 2010 was shot by the SSP division champion, who beat the CDP and ESP Masters' times by about 9 seconds using a Glock"

Dave Sevigny drives us all crazy ... he could probably win if he was using a T/C Contender ... up until this year, I always said if they made revolvers legal in Single Stack and made Robbie shoot a S&W J frame he would still beat us ... but then along comes Dave

the CDP winner won the last last couple of IDPA matches I went to, the Va. state match at Kettlefoot and the Mountaineer Classic in Boone, but then Gary would probably beat us if he had to reload a flintlock between shots too ... we can argue which gun we love or hate all day and all night, but it comes down to preparation, and then it's putting it on the ground on match day ... so train hard, practice hard, and then stand and deliver

Now, all that said ... when an old friend asked me about coming back and shooting some matches together after I hadn't shot in competition in years, I started out with my carry Sigs, and had fun but wasn't competitive with that gun. Someone introduced me to the Springfield XD's and it was love at first trigger pull. But I was still in the lower half of the results and kicked back and forth between a Browning HiPower, the XD's, a hicap Para and my old Colt National Match. Then they came out with the Single Stack division in USPSA and I bought a Doug Koenig S&W 1911. Everyone I shot with told me that from the day I started shooting that gun my shooting had improved unbelievably and I started expecting to be in the top 10% of any match I went to. These days I shoot single stack STI's and still do fairly well for a 62 yr old who rarely even tries to break into a run on a stage. So what works for one person won't necessarily work for you. But there is most likely one gun that fits you better, suits you better, whatever it is that makes you shoot it better. And you may just need to shoot a lot of guns to find the one that works for you.
 
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Other: A smith 5906 seems to be a nice choice. Big magazine, DA/SA, it weighs a friggin ton and a half, and it fires 9mm. Should be easier to hold on target than the plastics listed in the poll.
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Other: A smith 5906 seems to be a nice choice. Big magazine, DA/SA, it weighs a friggin ton and a half, and it fires 9mm. Should be easier to hold on target than the plastics listed in the poll.
"My ¥1.5356"
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While some folks like extra weight for either stability on target or dampening muzzle flip, the price you pay in inertia during target transitions isn't a good trade off
 
I'd use my Browning HP. For me, it points better,feels better and is very accurate. The fact that I'm used to it is part of it. The most inaccurate gun i've got is a S&W 908. It consistently Shoot low and to the left and I believe it's the barrell.
 
He has decided upon the CZ. He ended up getting a chance to try out the Glock 34 and a CZ and fell in love with it. Thanks for the input guys. I passed it on and think some of it helped.
 
the CDP winner won the last last couple of IDPA matches I went to, the Va. state match at Kettlefoot and the Mountaineer Classic in Boone, but then Gary would probably beat us if he had to reload a flintlock between shots too ... we can argue which gun we love or hate all day and all night, but it comes down to preparation, and then it's putting it on the ground on match day ... so train hard, practice hard, and then stand and deliver
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Just for the record, he is shooting a plastic M&P .45 in CDP.
 
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