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If I remember, when buying a mosin nagant you look for hex rec, 1944 or less year stamp made, and tula stamp? 
what to look for when buying mosin nagant
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also what is counter bored?
There is no golden bullet when buying a Mosin. Each one needs to be examined individually as they can run the gambit from like new to trashed and abused. If you want a shooter the way to get a winner is not to start with narrowed expectations of what you want (year of manufacture, arsenal, etc..) Start with the idea that you want to find an excellent example mechanically, because you are as likely to find an amazing shooter from any year, from any arsenal, round or hex receiver.
Mechanically you want to look for matching numbers, a good clean bore that is not counter bored (although this is not always an indication of a bad shooter) and general condition. Pre war (before 1939) overall tends to be better fit and finish. All hex are pre-war and generally are better finish than war time production.
From a collector standpoint, there are tons and tons of things that can make or break the collectability of a Mosin. Ex-snipers, re arseneled versus not, Finn captured, pre-war versus post war stocks and parts, ex-dragoons, scrubbed pre 1917 markings versus not scrubbed, which arsenal (Tula, Chatellerault, Izhevsk, White Westingtonhouse, Sestroryetsk, Remington) and the list goes on and on and on.
A great site to go to for lots more reading go check out 7.62x54r.net
Mechanically you want to look for matching numbers, a good clean bore that is not counter bored (although this is not always an indication of a bad shooter) and general condition. Pre war (before 1939) overall tends to be better fit and finish. All hex are pre-war and generally are better finish than war time production.
From a collector standpoint, there are tons and tons of things that can make or break the collectability of a Mosin. Ex-snipers, re arseneled versus not, Finn captured, pre-war versus post war stocks and parts, ex-dragoons, scrubbed pre 1917 markings versus not scrubbed, which arsenal (Tula, Chatellerault, Izhevsk, White Westingtonhouse, Sestroryetsk, Remington) and the list goes on and on and on.
A great site to go to for lots more reading go check out 7.62x54r.net
Counter boring is when the crown of a rifle is damaged and the arsenals drill an oversized hole down 1" or so into the rifle to create a new crown deeper in the barrel.
If you look down a Mosin barrel you should see the rifling going all the way to the end of the barrel. If it looks like there is a bit of smooth bore at the end then its counter bored.
This is not always an indication of a bad shooter. As a bullet comes down the barrel the last thing it goes through is the corwn. If the crown is dmaaged in any way it can lead to terrible accuracy problems. The counter boring was done to repair the damaged crowns, and has the potential of restoring lost potential of the rifle.
This is a neat pic that shows what the barrel looks likea fter counter boring, note the smooth area at the end, versus the rifling going all the way to the end.
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Oh sweet irony! I just helped a friend buy a Nagant at a gun show in Charlotte NC. Fella had em sitting up on a rack for $145 with accessories. It was the best one I've ever had the honor of observing. Cosmo ALL OVER IT, and not a speck of rust either on the surface or under the stock. The barrel wasn't counterbored, the rifling was nice and sharp, and the crown didn't have a finish anymore but was pristine and the lugs were crack free. Everything was perfect! To top it all off, I talked him down to 115. My buddy loves his new Mosin, and I hope you do too should you buy one! Can't go wrong!
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also get one , if you can, with the thick green dog collar sling; maybe the best rifle sling ever made. If not, they will usually run you 1/6 th the cost of the rifle; about 20 bucks. Counter bore, I would not worry too much about, I have a counterbore, and amazingly, it is very accurate. try to get the best looking wood as possible, and with the hole slots that are through the wood, try to get one, that has brass pieces on all of the through slots- it looks supernice.
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I looked on aimsurplus and I didnt find a M44, I am looking for a M44, because it is short not some 50inch long, M44 are around 40" what I read from 7.62.54r.net
Do you know where I could find surplus M44? I tryed GB they want over $180...
Do you know where I could find surplus M44? I tryed GB they want over $180...
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As always check pawn shops and local gun shows. You may get lucky. The last gun show I went to in Hickory NC had a chinese M44 for $100. Beat all to hell, but decent. Look, look, and look again. If you're in the market for a 91/30, J&G Sales always has nice prices. http://www.jgsales.com/index.php/rifles/russian/cPath/209_261
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m44 its 40inch
chevyforlife21
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make sure it doesnt say mosin nagant on it cuse its not a good idea to get it
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^ post above.
"make sure it doesnt say mosin nagant on it cuse its not a good idea to get it "
what does that mean?
"make sure it doesnt say mosin nagant on it cuse its not a good idea to get it "
what does that mean?
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