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whatever happened with this bill? HR 2789, citizens self defense act

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i found this while looking through my states congressmans webpage. i found it interesting that at one time they had a citizsens self defense act. so now i am wondering how far it got though the system. seems to me like it is needed. i think it would reduce crime. because then criminals might learn that people are going to defend their family and property. but at the same time, the rest of the country would have to repeal their gun control laws so people could actualy defend themselves.


To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2003'.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

The Congress finds the following:

(1) Police cannot protect, and are not legally liable for failing to protect, individual citizens, as evidenced by the following:

(A) The courts have consistently ruled that the police do not have an obligation to protect individuals, only the public in general. For example, in Warren v. District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App. 1981), the court stated: `[C]ourts have without exception concluded that when a municipality or other governmental entity undertakes to furnish police services, it assumes a duty only to the public at large and not to individual members of the community.'.

(B) Former Florida Attorney General Jim Smith told Florida legislators that police responded to only 200,000 of 700,000 calls for help to Dade County authorities.

(C) The United States Department of Justice found that, in 1989, there were 168,881 crimes of violence for which police had not responded within 1 hour.

(2) Citizens frequently must use firearms to defend themselves, as evidenced by the following:

(A) Every year, more than 2,400,000 people in the United States use a gun to defend themselves against criminals--or more than 6,500 people a day. This means that, each year, firearms are used 60 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.

(B) Of the 2,400,000 self-defense cases, more than 192,000 are by women defending themselves against sexual abuse.

(C) Of the 2,400,000 times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, 92 percent merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8 percent of the time, does a citizen kill or wound his or her attacker.

(3) Law-abiding citizens, seeking only to provide for their families' defense, are routinely prosecuted for brandishing or using a firearm in self- defense. For example:

(A) In 1986, Don Bennett of Oak Park, Illinois, was shot at by 2 men who had just stolen $1,200 in cash and jewelry from his suburban Chicago service station. The police arrested Bennett for violating Oak Park's handgun ban. The police never caught the actual criminals.

(B) Ronald Biggs, a resident of Goldsboro, North Carolina, was arrested for shooting an intruder in 1990. Four men broke into Biggs' residence one night, ransacked the home and then assaulted him with a baseball bat. When Biggs attempted to escape through the back door, the group chased him and Biggs turned and shot one of the assailants in the stomach. Biggs was arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon--a felony. His assailants were charged with misdemeanors.

(C) Don Campbell of Port Huron, Michigan, was arrested, jailed, and criminally charged after he shot a criminal assailant in 1991. The thief had broken into Campbell's store and attacked him. The prosecutor plea-bargained with the assailant and planned to use him to testify against Campbell for felonious use of a firearm. Only after intense community pressure did the prosecutor finally drop the charges.

(4) The courts have granted immunity from prosecution to police officers who use firearms in the line of duty. Similarly, law-abiding citizens who use firearms to protect themselves, their families, and their homes against violent felons should not be subject to lawsuits by the violent felons who sought to victimize them.

SEC. 3. RIGHT TO OBTAIN FIREARMS FOR SECURITY, AND TO USE FIREARMS IN DEFENSE OF SELF, FAMILY, OR HOME; ENFORCEMENT.

(a) REAFFIRMATION OF RIGHT- A person not prohibited from receiving a firearm by Section 922(g) of title 18, United States Code, shall have the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms --

(1) in defense of self or family against a reasonably perceived threat of imminent and unlawful infliction of serious bodily injury;

(2) in defense of self or family in the course of the commission by another person of a violent felony against the person or a member of the person's family; and

(3) in defense of the person's home in the course of the commission of a felony by another person.

(b) FIREARM DEFINED- As used in subsection (a), the term `firearm' means--

(1) a shotgun (as defined in section 921(a)(5) of title 18, United States Code);

(2) a rifle (as defined in section 921(a)(7) of title 18, United States Code); or

(3) a handgun (as defined in section 10 of Public Law 99-408).

(c) ENFORCEMENT OF RIGHT-

(1) IN GENERAL- A person whose right under subsection (a) is violated in any manner may bring an action in any United States district court against the United States, any State, or any person for damages, injunctive relief, and such other relief as the court deems appropriate.

(2) AUTHORITY TO AWARD A REASONABLE ATTORNEY'S FEE- In an action brought under paragraph (1), the court, in its discretion, may allow the prevailing plaintiff a reasonable attorney's fee as part of the costs.

(3) STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS- An action may not be brought under paragraph (1) after the 5-year period that begins with the date the violation described in paragraph (1) is discovered.

as copied from here- http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:20:./temp/~c108CS189I::
 
it would appear its long since died along with HR 648 (which is identical)
If they don't get passed, they get cleared from the books.
 
Basically it was a bill similar to the bill that allowed retired/off duty LEOs to carry anywhere. They got their bill but we never got ours. I heard that the Chiefs of Police Associations said they would lobby for a bill that affects Non-LEOs (the bill you pulled up) once they got their bill passed. That never happened and we as non LEOs are getting screwed again.
 
well thats stupid. is there way to get this reintroduced or something similar? as in contacting your congress persons. or would it even be worth doing since it didnt pass before. although a few states have passed or tried to pass such laws like the castle doctrine. so maybe something like this would pass now.
 
Basically it was a bill similar to the bill that allowed retired/off duty LEOs to carry anywhere. They got their bill but we never got ours. I heard that the Chiefs of Police Associations said they would lobby for a bill that affects Non-LEOs (the bill you pulled up) once they got their bill passed. That never happened and we as non LEOs are getting screwed again.

I agree wow big suprise here. Just more Govt first then the people later.....maybe.....if your good.........if its not a threat to the war on terror......:fire:
 
They passed it because (this is what they said) it was a way to get more LE personnel out there to help prevent terrorist acts at no cost to the taxpayer. Nice huh?

I was wrong and it is STILL.

I am thinking of writing to a few senators and asking them to reappeal the LEOSA because it puts more guns on the street. We all know how more guns on the street is a bad thing for society.;)
 
Thomas has the answer: referred to committee in 2003 and died there.

There have also been these bills:
1 . [103rd] Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 1993 (Introduced in House)[H.R.1276.IH ]
2 . [104th] Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 1995 (Introduced in House)[H.R.78.IH ]
3 . [109th] Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)[H.R.47.IH ]
4 . [106th] Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 1999 (Introduced in House)[H.R.347.IH ]
5 . [107th] Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2001 (Introduced in House)[H.R.31.IH ]
6 . [108th] Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2003 (Introduced in House)[H.R.648.IH ]
7 . [108th] Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2003 (Introduced in House)[H.R.2789.IH ]
8 . [105th] Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 1997 (Introduced in House)[H.R.27.IH ]
9 . [105th] Omnibus Crime Control Act of 1997 (Introduced in Senate)[S.3.IS ]
10 . [106th] Second Amendment Restoration Act of 1999 (Introduced in House)[H.R.407.IH ]
 
H. R. 47 is still alive, I think. But, it isn't going anywhere --
1/4/2005:
Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.

3/2/2005:
Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.
Perhaps a polite note to your congresscritter supporting Rep. Bartlett's HR 47 would be in order.
 
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