When the safety goes off in a holster

[jonsidneyb]

I have wondered if this has ever happened.

A holstered BPH or CZ is being carried cocked and locked and somehow the safety gets pushed off.

Has anyone ever heard of a gun discharging in a manner like this. I myself have never had an accidental discharge *knock on wood*.

Since the trigger is covered and there is some take up. I would think this is how the Glocks natural state is and should be safe.

I will continue to carry cocked and locked and a safety has never moved off on me yet. Just wondering if it is even possible for it to go off an an odd cricumstance if holstered.

My opinion is that it can't. What do you guys think?

 

[pedaldude]

Glock triggers are a bit heavier than a SA pistol, the grip safety on a 1911 is supposed to prevent AD and CZ safeties are pretty small, GP35 too.

If you have a holster that is flipping the safety off or allowing it to replace it immediately or modify it if you are so inclined, it can happen.

If you are worried about it use a DA, if you aren't then don't worry about it. I feel far too many people do. If it hasn't happened yet it probably won't.

 

[jonsidneyb]

As I said, I have never ever seen a safety flip off. It just has not every happened to me. I am not worried about it. It is just a wondering if it has ever happened to anyone.

Also the safeties on the BHP and CZ are quite far back. Most holster do not reach that far back on the gun.

 

[RyanM]

Very unlikely for anything to happen. And there are holsters made which have a ramp type thing which holds the safety in the "safe" position. With those, it's physically impossible for the safety to go to "fire" without the gun leaving the holster.

 

[jonsidneyb]

That is what I have been thinking. I am almost wondering if the safety is almost not needed in the holster. I will keep mine on but it seems that little can go wrong.

 

[esheato]

I carry a Commander sized 1911 in a Galco holster and there have been several (2-3) occasions where the thumb safety has been pushed down by bumping into things, ie. counters, poles, door frames etc. Most of the time I hear it and sneak off to a bathroom to correct it...

Once I didn't realize it until I got home in the evening. I had carried a loaded, cocked and UNlocked 1911 for 10 hours with nary a problem. I went to unload and stow it in the safe and upon removing it from the holster realized that the safety was disengaged.

While it shouldn't have happened in the first place, sh*t happens...Murphy and all. My holster might have failed in the thumb safety aspect but it excelled in a much more important area: not allowing anything to touch the trigger and the gun never fired.

I still carry that gun and holster everyday.

Ed

 

[Chuck R.]

About 15 years ago I had my safety swiped off on my Colt Combat Commander while I carried it in a cheap holster.

While nothing happened due to the covered trigger and the grip safety, it was disconcerting enough for me to switch to DA/SA autos. Since then I've seen the light, bought better leather and switched back to 1911s C & L.

In my Sparks holster there's just no way for the safety to be swiped off. It's molded to the gun with a slot for the safety. I've also rubber banded the "slide guard" to the gun with the safety engaged to reinforce the slot.

While wearing it, I can't disengage it using the ambi lever due to the pressure against the slide guard.

Chuck

 

[Walkalong]

Safefty bumped off safe

I had my safety swiped off on my Colt Combat Commander while I carried it

One more reason not to have wings for safeties ( I'm talking 1911's here. but its the same problem). I'm outnumbered on this I think, but I do not want ambi safeties nor an extended single safety.The Colt Commander style is great.
Here is a pic of my 3" CDP and the Wilson single narrow safety I modified & installed on it. Lets hear from everyone who likes BIG safeties here.( hope this isn't to much off the subject.)

 

[GoRon]

Some of your nicer holsters have an indentation that the safety sits in while holstered.

This makes it nearly impossible to accidentally click off supposedly.

 

[esheato]

Big safety isn't my problem as I prefer the slim ones. The ambi safety could be an issue as I'm a lefty and I have to have it. Typically my problem is that I bump into things...

LOL

Ed

 

[mljdeckard]

I often carry my full-size 1911 in a fanny pack in front, and once I pulled it out, it was cocked, and the safety was off. I really can't remember if it was me that forgot the safety, or if I was playing with my kids on my lap and it got pushed off. Either way, now, when I use a holster which prevents me from easily touching the pistol, I leave it on half-cock. If I have to pull it out of a fanny pack, that draw is too slow to make the difference in cocking the hammer anyway. Shoulder or IWB is always C&L.

 

[mete]

Never use trigger shoes, extended safeties or extended magazine releases in a holster .The holsters are not designed for that. Cheap holsters can release a safety.

 

[jonsidneyb]

The thing is. I have never seen a gun go off from any amount of jarring with a safety off. I am starting to think most good guns with safey off are still not going to fire no matter how much jarring they take as long as the trigger is not pulled.

 

[hmp32]

I have had that happen with my 1911 and I changed holsters. However, it was an ambi safty and the safety was easily was flip off. So it was a combination of the holster and the ambi..... a new holster solved it.

 

[AStone]

Safety?

What's a "safety"?

Nem, who carries SW 642 & Kahr K9

 

[jonsidneyb]

yes...but when the safety did flip off while in the hoster. I don't think you were in any danger is what I am getting at. I am curious to hear if something has ever gone wrong.

I have been shooting since the 60s and an accidental discharge is something I have have just hear of, never actually seen one happen with anyone I know and have not had one of my own.