Where are the calls to ban nightclubs?

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To be consistent, shouldn't our favorite antis and public health handwringers be clamoring for the gutting of the First Amendment to save clubbers from themselves? The Constitution and the Founders never mentioned disco or washed up metal acts.

After all, if it saves just one life. . . .:rolleyes:

edited for one too many "after alls."
 
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Well, let's substitute the word "socializing" for "sporting" and see what we come up with.

Dangerous nightclubs generally hold more than 100 people. They don't really serve a socializing purpose because socializing is done in smaller groups. No one really needs to be in a room with more than 100 people anyway to socialize. Clubs should have a capacity limit of 100 people regardless of size of building. It'll save lives. It's a common sense safety law.
 
Now, Now...
You can't honestly expect the left to ban nightclubs, social clubs or any type of club where their exhaulted leaders may drink and then drive in to a river with a date. That would be a terrible injustice to the kiddneys of their world...:D
 
Well, not to spoil your fun, but I really expect to see some stupid Federal law about this. I heard the start of it today - talking heads talking about this being "a national problem!".

:rolleyes:
 
If I was Minister of Propaganda and Culture, I would. I dislike the loud noise, drunken brawls and people relieving themselves in doorways. Everybody would have to attend nightly lectures on firearms safety, marksmanship and the significance of the Second Amendment. Hmmm.... No wonder why no government has ever approached me and offered me that post.
 
Gary,

You can have that post in my administration :cool:

I've heard way too much suggestion of new laws today. In fact there is way to much call for a new law to deal with any personal tragedy these days. What ever happened to plain old bad luck. It seems that the Chicago nightclub stampede last weekend happened in a closed nightclub. How could that be, people killed in a stampede in an illegal night club?? It didn't really happen, the press made it up..it's a hoax. The Daley administration ordered it closed for being unsafe. So it didn't happen.

As for the fire, I saw the fire chief say that the building was in compliance with the codes and laws. What more can we do? It's about time we realized that we live in an imperfect world and sometimes bad things happen...By the time the dogooders are done, we will live in close cell foam padded rooms, eat only purified tofu and drink only distilled water. :banghead:

Jeff - new prayer: Lord save me from the clutches of those who seek to save me from myself!
 
Thanks Mr. President. Are we a government-in-exile or a provisional government and by the way, which nation or is it the Earth in its entirety? :D
 
To be consistent, shouldn't our favorite antis and public health handwringers be clamoring for the gutting of the First Amendment to save clubbers from themselves?

Let's not give them any ideas, h'mkay? ;)
 
One big reason why things like this happen is due to the rapidly increasing "herd mentality" of people. Humans were never meant to use the "overabundance of prey" flocking strategy some migratory birds use to confound raptors. But you see it gaining every day. Like these people were going to "fool" the fire with an overabundance of prey?? Or that 300 people can fit through one door in 20 seconds. There were three, THREE, fire exits no one used. Why? Because EVERYONE was going THAT way to THE door! You see this everywhere now. Ask someone what they think of something and if they're against it, it's often because some friends told them or they heard on TV that's what they should believe. That's how morons like Gray Davis get re-elected. "Um, well, um, all my friends said they were voting for him because, um, well, the TV says all Republicans are racists and stuff, you know?"

Some people have absolutely no discipline or ability to think for themselves. They go with what the "crowd" does and says. That's why so many people attend these "peace" rallies. Ask most of them to articulate why war against Iraq is wrong and see how many can form a single sentence without "um" or "you know" or citing a celebrity. They're there because the "herd" they run with says they should be. And many are there out of their herd's collective fear of possible reprisals from terrorists for us attacking Iraq: "We better flock at once so as to confound the U.S. government from attacking Iraq!" And, so, this behavior is so deeply ingrained that when faced with a life-or-death situation, they follow the herd. Like lemmings off of a cliff...
 
Agreed.

Why is this "herd mentality" taking place?

There is HUGE lip-service paid to “being yourself†or being an “individual†or “expressing yourselfâ€. You hear that stuff all the time but in reality anyone who expresses themselves or acts just a bit outside of the “acceptable boundary†is branded with all sorts of epithets.

We as gun-owners are VERY aware of that.

My theory is that it’s directly related to population density.

You get a lot of people living in a small area and conformity of thought and action become the norm. Survival becomes based on everyone acting in the same predictable way. Rights are curtailed because survival becomes based on limiting what those around you can do, not you as an individual acting to protect yourself. That kind of self-sufficiency is anathema to the socialist mentality that comes from living in a ant-hill.

The problem is that there isn’t a Queen in this ant farm. Mammals don’t operate as insects as much as they seem to in situations like this. The “Queen†in situations like the club fires becomes the first person to do something. Right or wrong once that person makes a move everyone else will blindly follow.

This will only get worse as time goes on. Those of us that can think, reason and act properly for our own benefit are thought to be strange by the vast majority of those that have become indoctrinated into being unquestioning followers.

In some respects this can been seen as a Good Thingâ„¢. I see some much needed Darwinism at work. People who walk around in permanent Condition White are more likely to be removed from the gene pool. People that survive a tragedy like this through their good thinking and ability to function under stress are valuable to the species.
 
There is HUGE lip-service paid to “being yourself†or being an “individual†or “expressing yourselfâ€.
Yep, that's why the young get pierced and tattood, so they can be "individuals" just like all their friends. ;) (Hmm, I wonder if my earring hole has closed after all these years.)

By the time the dogooders are done, we will live in close cell foam padded rooms, eat only purified tofu and drink only distilled water.
Only if the foam is certified by the EPA as being coated with flame retardant that won't cause cancer.
 
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