Where does it say the People in the commerce clause?

[cropcirclewalker]

Article 1
Section 8
Clause 3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

OK, OK.

I see where congress has the power to do the above. Where does it say that congress can regulate commerce between the people?

How come the commerce clause is not a COLLECTIVE power belonging to congress?

Like, that is to say, can congress arrest and charge a foreign person in a foreign contry for having an unregistered machine gun? I mean like in Iraq? Or can they just tell Indiana (or another state or indian tribe) not to do business with Iraq?

I think what we have here is that the fascist FDR followed in ole' Honest Abe's footsteps and usurped a bunch of power that should belong to the states.

Sure, congress can regulate (In the same sense as regulate in 2a) commerce between the states but it doesn't say that they can regulate between the people.

Iraqii with AK47 example as shown above.

FDR led a bunch of dim witted congress persons into the wrong definition of the word "Regulate".

edited to propose that the correct wordage for the commerce clause as the fascist FDR would have us believe

Clause 3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the people of the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

 

[Leatherneck]

It seems to me that Congress has Constitutional authority to pass laws to regulate interstate and foreign commerce; fed.guv then has to see to the enforcement thereof. Commerce is carried on by people, so that's where the jurisdiction lies.

TC

 

[cropcirclewalker]

The clause also permits regulation of foreign nations. Congress has no power to enforcer trade between the individuals of a foreign nation. They should have either taken "Foreign Nations" outa that clause and made another one specifically for it or put "The people of" after "among" in the original.

I can read.

Other places in the constitution (not just in the BoR) persons are refenenced.......

Clause 8...To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

Section. 9.

Clause 1: The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

This stuff is not in the BoR. This stuff in in the real constitution.

 

[insurgent]

The Govt knows exactly what the clause means and has since day one. They simply choose to ignore it as it's a convenient method for them to regulate anything they want.
It should be renames to the "butterfly effect clause".

"For the power given to Congress by the Constitution does not extend to the internal regulation of the commerce of a state, (that is to say, of the commerce between citizen and citizen,) which remains exclusively with its own legislature; but to its external commerce only, that is to say, its commerce with another state, or with foreign nations, or with the Indian tribes." (Thomas Jefferson)

Great write-up here:
busting congress interstate commerce myth
Great blog too.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

The clause also permits regulation of foreign nations.

No, it permits regulation of commerce with foreign nations. I'll decline comment on the rest of it since I don't have time to get into it.

 

[cropcirclewalker]

Article 1
Section 8
Clause 3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

Mr. Roberts said:

No, it permits regulation of commerce with foreign nations.

Somehow I think I am supposed to believe that the word with differentiates foreign nations from states because the founders used the word among with the states.

Then they come along and say with the Indian Tribes.

So, I sense that the choices of those words mean that they cannot regulate possession of unregistered machine guns of persons in foreign countries or of Indians living on reservations. Sorry.

One of these things is not like the other.

It's a wink and a nod. They know they have no authority, but they take it anyway. The fascist FDR couldn't have pushed us into socialism without it.