where to find a British baker rifle kit ?

[Heir Kommt Die Sonne]

The Baker rifle is one that caught my fancy, 5 years ago I was mildly interested but now it's on my wishlist. I tried looking at Dixie Gun Works and found none. Most kits these days are of the hunting rifles of the day.
To be honest I'm not good with metal working (there's a Flintlock pistol I got years ago that I could never finish) but since that's gone, having another go at a flintlock piece would be a nice refresher.
Or maybe buying a complete rifle would be the way to go, but if I'm going repro id' rather it be something I work on myself (so I can customize it and make it more authentic at will).

Please let me know, thanks

 

[Jim Watson]

Plan A: There are Indian made wall hangers that can be made to shoot.
Plan B: TRS kit, $1195, several variants available. Read the FAQ, these are ADVANCED kits, calling for much metal working.
http://therifleshoppe.com/catalog_pages/english_arms/baker_rifles.htm
Plan C: I could not find a completed good quality reproduction. I could not find a custom maker listing the type.

 

[Heir Kommt Die Sonne]

In my experience, buying the cheaper route to get your hands on a weapon is usually not a good idea. The Baker was a fine weapon of it's day; a repro of it should be worthy of the same.
But a quick buck spent is still a interesting idea.
Perhaps you could provide a link to the indian copies?

 

[Jim Watson]

Searches erased. Just google on Baker rifle replica.
The adverts may not SAY "India" but "Flashhole not drilled" and "smoothbore" and "tubing" are giveaways.

 

[Heir Kommt Die Sonne]

hm the ones i'm seeing don't look half bad. I'd imagine they're kit guns just as is, just need some touching up and 'authentification'.
Still, I always prefer originals if I can but that either requires saving or trading my way up. But personal finanaces aside, I now have some neat ideas on my to-do pad. thanks

 

[arcticap]

I don't know if you found all of the vendors but I see 3 advertising it.
Veterans Arms, Military Heritage in Canada and Middlesex Village Trading Co.
There's been complaints about Middlesex in recent years regarding not delivering products timely and sometimes not at all.
Military Heritage shows the Baker as being out of stock. --->>> http://www.militaryheritage.com/baker.htm
I guess that leaves Veteran Arms. --->>> http://veteranarms.com/ReproductionMuzzleloadersandFlintlocks/Muskets.html

 

[midland man]

I don't know if you found all of the vendors but I see 3 advertising it.
Veterans Arms, Military Heritage in Canada and Middlesex Village Trading Co.
There's been complaints about Middlesex in recent years regarding not delivering products timely and sometimes not at all.
Military Heritage shows the Baker as being out of stock. --->>> http://www.militaryheritage.com/baker.htm
I guess that leaves Veteran Arms. --->>> http://veteranarms.com/ReproductionMuzzleloadersandFlintlocks/Muskets.html

you know I let people get to me about these India made guns blowing up and when I ask where is the proof that these happened and weather it was due to overcharge or normal loads I see no proof of such guns blowing up and so I finally bought one from the muzzeloader shop in Arkansas it was a shorten down fusil de chasse which is historically correct as the natives took and cut the barrels and stock down a bit shorter but anyways mine came with instructions to not use over 70grs of 2f as max load! but you know I started out at that load with 62c round ball and working up a load I am all the way up to 120grs of 3f goex and I see no ill effects of overcharge!! so all this bull about India guns blowing up is a bunch of bull! look if you want to blow one up any brand can blow up if you go throw in 3-4-5 round ball loads then any of them can blow up and that applies to any brand of muzzeloader! just work your loads up and use a little common sense and pay attention to what your doing all will be fine!

 

[midland man]

this is one I want to get to add to my collection! I have already called them and yes you have to drill the flashhole but its simple to do plus the dimple is there to where to drill the hole! http://www.militaryheritage.com/musket28.htm

 

[entropy]

Plan D; Track of the Wolf has the barrel; it's a start.

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/652/1/COLE-62-BAKER

 

[arcticap]

this is one I want to get to add to my collection! I have already called them and yes you have to drill the flashhole but its simple to do plus the dimple is there to where to drill the hole! http://www.militaryheritage.com/musket28.htm

They claim to have the best frizzen hardening process.

"We use a industrial case-hardening factory process that makes sparking both more reliable and longer lasting.
Presently no other musket provider uses this technique."

 

[flintlock]

The Rifle Shop has some of the best parts I have seen on reproduction guns. I helped a good friend build a Baker Rifle from the Rifle Shop avower 1997. It was a very nice gun. Parts were good and it was very accurate. I can't remember if it was a .54 or .62. It was one of the first kits the Rifle Shop had. He lived about 30 min from my friend and was always out there building rifles for myself or helping my friend build one. He had bad shoulders so I got to do the draw filing on the barrels and buffing parts for browning. It was a great time. I still have one of the first run of catalogs the Rifle Shop put out. We also built an English Snaphaunce. it shot a .76Cal ball. It was for the Rifle Shop for his photos in the catalog. It took several deer before taking it to the shop.

Mike

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

Note that the Indian made Bakers are smoothbore "muskets" while the Track of the Wolf barrel is rifled like the originals.
One might replace an Indian smoothbore barrel with a TotW rifled one if one wanted a more original reproduction.