Which all original parts AKM-47

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THR experts, I thank you loads for your advice.

I have let the AK bug bite and am considering one of these for Christmas:

http://translate.google.com/transla...http://www.nuovajager.it/catalogo2.asp?tipo=3

These are all authentic all original parts AKMs from their original country arsenals - except for the necessary demilitarization through change of sear, selector and possibly filing receiver FA bevels, whatever else was needed to comply with the laws over here.

US AK fans, you may just enjoy the pictures!

I think I favour the forged and milled DDR with the bakelite furniture. But I would love your advice on which of these demilitarized are closest to the original tool, and which were known for the best construction and accuracy.

I find folding stocks (welded open by law here) difficult to comfortably shoot and the Radom sniper version is pricey and heavy, but please give me your thoughts.
 
Research conducted

I have spent a few months researching and browsing boards, but find almost only US market info (WASRs and such). So I come to THR seeking informed AK-buff opinion on the original non 922(r) rifles (alas, still hobbled de-FA'ed).
 
devalier, I don't understand your question - are you looking for a close mach to the original USSR AKM, because all of the AK(M) listed there are original military weapons?
...I think I favour the forged and milled DDR...
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Do you want an AK 47, or an AKM?

In my opinion "the best" ones are Soviet, DDR and Polish, but it's only my opinion...

Boris

P.S. It's called only AKM, not AKM 47 and there is not an AKM 74 - only AK 74.
 
Mizar, you are right, of course. AKM, although the DDR MPi has a milled receiver, so I don't know precisely what it is - exactly. Yours is the type of precison and knowledge I am hoping to tap into.

My question was which of the listed for sale AK's would be your top pick. The Polish origin 922r conversions seem very much sought for on US boards, that or the Yugoslavian. I am looking for a high quality, accurate, and minimally changed AK. The vendor is not helpful and my knowledge of AKs not rich enough (yet, I hope) to make the most informed decision. But I do find THR a great place to get wise advice. And while I continue research for a December purchase, your council is balued.

I see some very nice folding stock AKs (AKMS?), and while I do not like the feel and comfort of folding stock, I know there are cheek risers or furniture changes possible, so perhaps I should not pass over them so quickly.

Aside from the generic order Russia, Germany, Poland, is there a top pick in the list?
 
Creeper,
Oh oh, that's my fault. But why? The high price? The low price? The avalability?
Guns cost a terrible amount here, but on the other hand we do get access to some nice things.
 
Those would be illegal over here since they are converted from full auto. Once a machine gun, always a machine gun is stupid but hey! It's the government and they're here to help.
 
Thank you, but my knowledge on AK is quite limited compared to some of the folks here. As for the milled receiver - only AK 47 has one and it doesn't matter where it is manufactured. As for the DDR one, it is an AKM - stamped receiver. Here is some info that I stole from another forum:

East German/(USSR) designations,
Mpik (AK-47)
MpikmS (AKS-47)
MpikM (AKM)
MpikMS-72 (AKMS)
MpiAK-74N (AK-74)
MpiAKS-74N (AKS-74)
MpiAKS-74NK (AKSU-74)

Hope this will shed some light.

In my opinion, get the DDR one (MpikM), but don't expect sub MOA accuracy out of it. The Polish AKML is also a nice one, but the description is misleading - it is NOT a sniper AKM, this mount was meant for mounting a night vision scope for the infantry and etc. As for the vendor not being helpful - it is clear that his knowledge on AKs is limited.

Boris
 
My choice would be the stamped DDR rifle or the Polish sniper model. Having a milled receiver doesn't really give you any benefit, and it weighs more than a stamped receiver gun. Do be aware that the DDR rifle should have a brown plastic front grip similar to the stock and pistol grip, but the photo shows a generic wooden front end instead.

The Polish and Yugoslav rifles are excellent quality, but I don't like the under-folding stock design - it's uncomfortable to shoot.

The Yugo M72 RPK is a great gun (I have one), if you're interested in a light machine gun configuration instead of a basic rifle.
 
Thanks, Ian and Mizar! That list was pretty useful as googling it allowed me to find a good source of DDRinfo not previously found:
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=610595


Will have to check barrel condition, and haggle for the missing front end (thx for that) , but DDR it is.

The M72 does catch my eye, but it is a big heavy beast I imagine. Was handling a gorgeous Zastava M96 this weekend with all its original kit and it was difficult to hand hold standing.
 
Creeper,
Oh oh, that's my fault. But why? The high price? The low price? The avalability?
Guns cost a terrible amount here, but on the other hand we do get access to some nice things.
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A complete, functioning Sig PE57 can sell for $4,000 to $8,000 in the US... depending on condition. In the late 70s I had a Golden State Arms imported SIG AMT, which is what they called the US .308 cal. import version. I paid a bit over $800 for it at the time along with a Stoeger imported Belgian FAL "Match 50.0" for $700. I have neither now... selling them in the 90s for 4 times what I paid for them.
Seeing one for sale at approximately $1,200 US is... :banghead:

Cheers,
C
 
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