Which State has the best Laws for Shooters

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AKPastor said:
I vote Alaska - but then I'm biased

As to cool - we've been warmer and with less snow than some of you folks.
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I can second this. My hometown in SE Alaska has weather that's not much different than Seattle. Alaska is so big that it basically has three different climate regions, depending on where you go.

But I digress from the topic. Alaska is very relaxed about both OC and CC, and you don't need a permit. It's basically expected that if you're in the great outdoors, you're toting a big gun. In fact, I'd warn you away from Alaska if you said you didn't like carrying.
 
mljdeckard said:
I love answering this question, to see if I can remember everything.

Utah has both extremes of weather, but the southern part is usually 15+ degrees warmer than Salt Lake. As for letting your dogs run free, it depends on where you are. Smaller town are more sympathetic than larger ones.

Castle doctrine
stand your ground law
You can open carry anywhere you can carry concealed
Your employer cannot ban a gun in your vehicle in the parking lot.
No duty to inform police you are carrying. (Although I still do, it gets me out of tickets,)
Carry in schools, k-university
carry in church as long as you're not a mormon
carry in banks
carry in bars
state has preemption
state law forbids confiscation in time of crisis
John Browning's mansion is for sale
plenty of desert and mountain terrain
carry in National Parks
Permit valid in 34 states, last I checked,
if the direction of the President's pushing upsets you, we are pushing back HARD.
Kill all the coyotes you can, no license, no season, no limit
We have tabled legislation to do away with permits. It will likely go through soon.

I personally plan to build Fort Deckard out in the sagebrush where I can shoot clay birds off my back deck and no one will care.

BTW, your buddy in Mexico, he must be way out in the Agaves, if any of US crossed the border and got caught with a single round of ammo in the car, we would probably be spending time in a Mexican jail. One day of that is too many.
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I didn't even know about some of those.

"We have tabled legislation to do away with permits. It will likely go through soon."

When might this happen? I haven't even heard about it.
 
Jim Rawles over at Survivalblog.com has done extensive research on gun laws, climate, pop. density, taxes, etc. He concentrated on west of the Mississippi river. I haven't looked at it for awhile but I seem to recall it was Idaho or Utah, just for gun laws, with a slight edge for Arizona when warm weather was factored in.
 
Wimmer and Sandstrom have introduced the legislation to do away with permits, one version keeps the training requirement, but drops the requirement to pay a fee and apply to the state for a permit. It is likely to get voted on this session, I give it 50/50 it fails this year, and gets passed next year.
 
mljdeckard said:
Wimmer and Sandstrom have introduced the legislation to do away with permits, one version keeps the training requirement, but drops the requirement to pay a fee and apply to the state for a permit. It is likely to get voted on this session, I give it 50/50 it fails this year, and gets passed next year.
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How does that work? You have to take the permit course but don't need the permit?
 
Texas? They have a few weird gun laws there. Louisiana on the other hand is good to go on just about everything, including open carry and carrying loaded guns anywhere in your vehicle.
 
I have recently retired from the PD here in NJ and I am looking for the same things as you are, freedom, dogs, and warmer weather. I also want a place where I can afford someland, I'd say a minimum of 40 acres (so I can have a range on my property) and in an area where I can grow some crops (so the desert is out). And, while not a deal breaker, I'd prefer an open carry state. I don't like states that require you to notify cops that you are armed. As a cop I never had to tell other cops that I was armed and nobody else should have to either. This could pose a problem for a citizen who is in the company of another person who doesn't (and shouldn't) know of his armed status.

In looking around I am finding some terribly stupid restrictions on carrying. There are many stupid and pointless laws that render their "shall-issue" permits almost useless. I recently read an online post that some guy wrote about his first day of concealed carry. The gun spent more than half the day in his car! If I was walking around doing errands I'd have to break a lot of rules or spend the day unarmed.

I hate to admit it but NJ is a lot better than other states in some areas and this is one of them (quite possibly the only one!). I have seen laws that mean a gun in a pocket or an ankle holster is illegal (even with a permit) but a belt holster is fine, other laws mean that a gun under the car seat is illegal but a gun in a holster or glove box is okay. Most states have a long list of places where guns can't be carried: banks, hospitals, airports, schools, sporting events, churches, restaurants, parades, government buildings, police stations, parks, buses, political events, polling places, etc. There is no valid reason for any of these restrictions!

Here in NJ we don't care how or where (where in your car or where on your person) you carry your gun. We don't care if its open or concealed. Our law only deals with one thing - whether or not you are allowed to have a gun. Its a very simple yes or no answer. Those with a NJ carry permit can go anywhere in the state. The only exception is schools. Yes, I know, there is no valid reason for that but its a lot better than those long lists of prohibited places that other states have!

I find all those pointless restrictions to be very childish and as a cop I could never see myself actually enforcing any of them. If I were governor of any of the other states I'd be embarrassed that a super corrupt state like NJ is doing something better than my state!
 
Doing away with the permits is not a good idea. Make them optional like AZ does. As a cop I like people that have permits. When I am called upon to "check out" somebody, for whatever reason, his display of a permit drastically shortens our time together. I don't have to detain him for 20 minutes while my dispatcher runs a bunch of checks on him because the permit shows me that somebody else already did that and he's good to go! But, as I said, they should be optional! That also helps residents that want to carry in other states that reciprocate with your state.
 
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