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Which to get? S&W 19-4 or Colt Trooper mk III?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by BhmBill, Apr 8, 2009.

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  1. BhmBill

    BhmBill Member

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    i'm lookin to get another revolver and these are what I can get a decent deal on ftf.

    They're both the same price, they're both in "immaculate" condition, both are 6" barrels, the s&w is nickel with hogue combat grips and the trooper has flawless blued finish with I what believe are factory grips.

    Which do you figure would be the better deal? is there any problems assosciated with either of these pistols?

    heres the pictures that were given to me

    heres the Colt

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    and the S&W

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  2. riverdog

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    I prefer the S&W action and the Colts finish.
     
  3. SaxonPig

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    Assuming no real preference between nickel and blue, the Colt will be slightly sturdier if you plan a lot of Magnum shooting. Most folks prefer the S&W trigger system and in general I think the 19 is a bit classier.

    Either will work.
     
  4. harmonic

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    Before buying a used revolver, check out this thread. It tells you what to look for.

    http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57816

    Also, be advised, there were problems with some 19s where owners used light bullets ahead of slow burning powders. It sometimes produced cracks in the forcing cone.

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    I own a 19-4 with 6 inch barrel and it's one of my absolute favorite guns to shoot. Only, I handload to 38 special velocities.

    I've never owned the Trooper but, if the price is right, would have no problem with owning one.

    The deciding factor for me, if you have to have one or the other right now, would be the finish. I've read that Hoppes will discolor nickel, so I stick with blue.
     
  5. BhmBill

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    Thank you gentlemen!

    I believe I'm gonna go with the Colt since i'll also be acquiring a S&W 581 soon.

    So the problems with that S&W arose from trying to get incredibly high velocities from light bullets?
     
  6. ironvic

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    I have a Trooper MKIII like your picture and like it a lot. The bluing is flawless and it's extremely accurate. That said, the S&W trigger is smoother, especially double action.

    One thing with Colt revolvers is that they require more finicky gunsmithing to keep in top shape and Colt 'smiths are at a premium compared to guys who work on S&W revolvers. I still like my Trooper and will hang onto it because it's accurate and fun to shoot.
     
  7. Walkalong

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    They are both great guns. hard to go wrong here. I baby the 19, but this 6" Trooper is a real work horse. Shoots like a dream too. :)

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    Thank you for your input, gentlemen!

    I'm headin to the police station shortly to meet with the guy and transfer/register the Colt.

    I can't wait!
     
  9. Ala Dan

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    Well, I'm a S&W kind'a guy; even though I do own several Colt D-frames~!
    Both are great weapons, so I will leave the choice up too you, my friend. ;)
     
  10. bannockburn

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    BhmBill

    You can't go wrong with either one, provided everything checks out okay with them. My first .357 Magnum was a Colt Trooper Mk.III and I just liked how sturdy and well built the gun was. Not to take anything away from the S&W Model 19, but I think over the long run, the Colt will hold up better with a steady diet of full house loads than the S&W will.
     
  11. BhmBill

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    Thanks for the help choosing guys.

    I ended up getting the Colt Trooper MkIII. It's a sweeeet gun. Very sturdy, very well built. I'm going to try my best to shoot it this weekend.

    I also bought a S&W 58-1 4" .357 this evening. You guys were right about the trigger. The S&W is incredibly smooth. I just got to find a decent holster for OC.

    Thank you again to Harmonic, the Colt (and the S&W 19 he had) showed absolutely no wear.

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    Sweet choice. I'm a Colt revolver guy myself. (nothing bad about s&w's).

    Harmonic, Cudo's to ya. People like you here on THR makes this what it is. A good place for information to fellow shooters. Again great write-up!
     
  13. Walkalong

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    That S&W .357 must be a M-28, not 58. 58 is .41 Mag.......:)

    Another very good choice in revolvers...... Wish I had a 58.
     

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    Sorry, the revolver picture I posted is of the Colt, not the S&W 58-1.

    I haven't taken a picture of the S&W yet, but I will.... right..... NOW!
     
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    HERE'S the S&W 58-1 .357.

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    New nightstand and soon to be OC gun. I can't believe how comfortable, smooth, and light it is. It's nice to finally have, after 3 years, not one .357, but 2 in 2 days.
     
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    Somebody posted what you had must have been a model 28 since they didn't make the 58 in 357. But looking at your picture, it's a fixed sight gun. I never saw a fixed sight 28.

    Plus, (and, from the picture, it's hard to tell), it looks like you've got a full length barrel underlug.

    Could you look inside the crane and confirm what model Smith you bought, cause if you bought a model 58 in 357 magnum, you might have something there. What, I don't know. But, something,
     
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    "mod 58-1"

    Yes sir, full underlug.

    I believe it a S&W 581, but there's a dash in there for some reason.
     
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    Good choice. I could tell little practical difference shooting my Python and Trooper Mark III. Sold off the Python (my last) and used the funds to acquire some safe queens. But the Trooper Mark III... I love. Wonderful trigger. The Model 58 Smith is chambered in 41 mag. But you know that.
     
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    We need Old Fuff for clarification. As he knows pistol "model" configurations.
     
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    Since all Colts are entering the realm of collector status you might as well get the 19 so you can shoot it and bear the accasional scratch
     
  21. BhmBill

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    To clarify for everyone, I already bought the Colt Trooper MK III and the S&W 58-1.

    The Colt Trooper MK III

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    The S&W 58-1

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    I think you'll love the Trooper Mark III if it functions anywhere close to mine. As far as the 58-1/581 thing.... Model 58 IS a 41 mag and the 581 IS a 357 mag revolver. :D

    Smith has recently introduced the Model 58 again (with the lock of course) as part of their classic line. I want one!
     
  23. BhmBill

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    I'm lovin the Colt action. Very tight and consistent, no grinding or anything. Very smooth. The SA is even better. I love it so far.

    I'm just sayin... the model on this thing, clear as day, says "MOD 58-1".
     
  24. .41Dave

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    Walkalong is correct that the 58 is a .41 magnum N frame. What you have is a S&W model 581 L frame .357 magnum revolver that was evidently mismarked at the factory. The 581 and 681 were fixed sight versions of the more common 586 and 686 revolvers. They are very nice guns, and while not exactly rare, can be difficult to find when you are looking for one.

    Congrats!
     
  25. 22-rimfire

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    My Trooper Mark III is as smooth as butter. I had always thought someone did a trigger job on it, but after reading here and elsewhere, I doubt it. I totally ignored them when they were available retail. Don't get me wrong, I have several since.
     
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