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Who are you ? Never mind. We'll just scan your arm..

Discussion in 'Legal' started by bg, Oct 12, 2005.

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  1. bg

    bg Member

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    When you find out, let me know..
  2. NCP24

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    It wont be long now.
     
  3. dasmi

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    Believe it.
    Also believe that I will never, ever be tagged like cattle.
     
  4. MrTuffPaws

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    In CA, they already take a DNA sample if they retain you. No arrest or conviction needed.
     
  5. sumpnz

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    I've got an RFID card that goes along with my photo ID badge for work. I have to use it to get into, and out of all buildings at work, and many rooms within each building. I don't mind it so much since it's only really used to track where I am while at work, it has no ability to really do much else, and the job is pretty good. Though, I'd rather have the magnetic stripe that was used at the last place I worked (you had to swipe it like a credit card for access). So long as they never require an implantable chip I'm fine with the RFID for work ID purposes. I can always take my card off and leave it at home or in the car or whatever if I want to.
     
  6. dolanp

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    If you want to know what the world will be like in the future, watch Gattaca. Everything seems to head that direction.
     
  7. R.H. Lee

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    Yeah, and when the time comes everybody will just roll over and submit. Just like social security numbers for newborns, fingerprints for driver's licenses, AWB and other gun restrictions,searches at airports, PA I & II, etc., et yada, et :barf:

    We're a nation of helpless wimps.
     
  8. Highland Ranger

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    So where's the line?

    Has it already been crossed?
     
  9. geekWithA.45

    geekWithA.45 Moderator Emeritus

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    Where's the line?

    When internal RFID is required:

    At birth
    To Vote
    To purchase anything
    To Get on a plane or train
    To Obtain any sort of license
    To pass into any public area
     
  10. Refirignis

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    I'll never get one.

    From elsewhere (exact date unknown, but I stored this chunk of information back in January 2005):
    So, anyone here who was previously fine with implanted chips, still fine with implanted chips?
     
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  11. geekWithA.45

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    I didn't see that post indicating the prefered site for insertion was hand or forehead, and I'm skeptical. Link?

    The normal place for a verichip is in the arm. You need somewhere with a bit of meat.

    Hands and Heads are quite bony, and aren't good sites. Furthermore, I'm certain that the folks @ verichip have read revelations, and take special pains to avoid precisely that association you mention.

    All our dogs are tagged, and I was present for several of the taggings. The injection needle was almost 1/8 of an inch, so I find no substance in verichip's claims that insertion would be "painless".
     
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    wow- 20,000 incidents of infant switching?!?!

    i realy hope that is faulty exagerated data.

    what a nightmare.
    a braclet id for babies, fine. an implanted chip? scary.
    and what happens when it does burn out in 20 years???

    soylent green? ??
     
  13. Turtle Club

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    If this happens as much as I hate to say: I am moving to France.
     
  14. Beethoven

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    The movie Terminator 2 springs to mind.......


    I will NEVER allow anyone to implant any sort of a device on or in my body.
     
  15. Shipwreck

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    I will NEVER allow anyone to implant any sort of a device on or in my body.

    Hope ya never need a pacemaker :neener: :neener:
     
  16. Chipperman

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    I implant chips like those all the time in dogs and cats. As stated above, it's a pretty large needle. Pciture a microchip the size of a grain of rice. Now picture a needle big enough for that grain of rice to pass THROUGH THE INSIDE.

    Most animals take the injection well, but I don't think too many people will regard it as "relatively painless"
     
  17. longrifleman

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    VeriChip version 3.1 will be implanted in the back of your neck, and will also have a small explosive charge built in. Better double check the frequency on your garage door opener. :barf:
     
  18. Chrontius

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    I tend to think the future will be more like Bubblegum Crisis. The military's already working on the powered armor, and Genom could be Micro$oft, Daewoo, or any number of other conglomerate that winds up too big for its breeches.

    Yes. Just not this one. I plan to have a custom smartgun built (The 2020 smartgun, not the NJ one -- neural trigger, video feed, barrel launched adaptive munitions, etc.) when I retire, which I think is about when the tech will be mature ^_^

    Anything's painless with enough morphine. Freaking *owch* dude.

    You're thinking of Logan's Run, I think.

    How the hell is that possible?
     
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    Didn't seem to do them much good with Tim McVeigh. He claimed to have been implanted with a device. Wasn't there rumor of a field trip to a nearby airforce base to have it removed after he was arrested for the bombing? Who knows? I have read unrelated articles on mind control experiments using similar devices though.

    They can forget about me playing that game.
     
  20. c_yeager

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    The chips for infant security/tracking are *not* implanted. They are on a tag that is clipped to the umbilical cord or to a wrist band which is removed upon release. The entire point of the system is ease of use, having to perform a surgical proceedure is not an easy way to perform patient identification.

    As far as I know the only impantable application for healthcare is in cases where at-risk indivuals *want* to have the chip to provide a readily available medical history. In essense its an advanced "medic-alert" bracelet.

    RFID chips are only detectable at a short range the only way you could be tracked with one is if the guys in the black helicopters set up monitoring stations every ten feet.
     
  21. gutter scout

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    I'll implant a 7.62 mm identification device in anyone who tells me I must have one.
     
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