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Who here has had training on carrying concealed other than that ridiculous class that they say qualifies you to have a concealed carry license?
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I agree many of the basic CHL classes I've seen are pretty bad but some are pretty good.
You'll have to shop around if you are interested in an advanced class, very good ones are available and they don't cost a fortune or take you away for a week. I would ask around at some of the shooting ranges, and talk with other gun owners as well as some of the local police in your area.
There's a lot of active/retired LEO's teaching classes for extra money and the ones I've seen are pretty good and creative.
 
i suspect i've had more training than the average cop in my town.
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No argument here. As seen on a number of TV shows practicing in a well lighted, enclosed, air conditioned shooting range really prepares the street cop in less than perfect conditions. :banghead:
 
I have had the "ridiculous" CC training, advanced handgun training, and tactical handgun training.

Training is fun and addictive, I just wish I wish it didn't hit the wallet so hard.
 
CC class

Provided a lot of Arkansas legal stuff. Other training, 24 years of military infantry. Four years USMC '64 -'68; hands-on training, "Nam '65 -'66! Twenty years US Army Infantry, lots of hands-on training, most noteable was chasing Noriega through Panama in '89!

Retired in '95 as an Infantry First Sergeant. Since my retirement, I haven't had much hands-on other than at our local range:)
 
XD,
Many states requirements for training is weak. Even in states with good requirements, finding a good instructor is just as hard as finding any good teacher.

The rangemaster suggestion seems to be a good choice in your state.
 
Since the early '90s, I've been clocking hours. Now 600+ hours (mostly pistol, but includes rifle, carbine, shotgun, submachine gun and medical treatment of GSWs) from a host of instructors (plurality with ITC/Thunder Ranch), not including the Awerbuck pistol class I have this weekend.

You are never done training.:)
 
You are never done training
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True that.

I have no idea of the number of hours I have, but they also include handgun, rifle, shotgun, machine gun, legal, etc. I am always looking for more, but time and money are tight now. :eek:
 
Yes.
I have had training specifically directed at concealed carry (not just a general gun training class).
Frontsight's four day handgun class spends final two days as well as the skills test shooting 100% from concealment. In addition, they give several hour+ lectures on things like civil & criminal problems associated with personal protection, moral and ethical considerations of personal defense, and other related topics.
I have taken that class three times.

I have been to quite a few firearms training classes at various venues but you didn't ask about that. Out of the 20 or so formal firearms classes I have taken, none of the others dealt in any way with concealed carry.
 
I lost count somewhere after 500 hours of classes- so yeah I guess that I've had training. :D Some CCW classes are valuable, some not so much. The secret is to find a good instructor.

Here in Vegas, there are a couple of good- and one great- instructors of the CCW class. There is a bunch of solid legal info and you do have to qualify with the weapons that you plan on carrying.
 
Many hours of traing in the 4 years I spent in the Army. Yes I had to CC, I was required to be armed at all times. In or out of uniform.
 
This thread smells of trolling. I'm sure Sarah Brady would refer to most CCW classes as "ridiculous" and would like to know how many of us have only such "ridiculous" training.
 
I think everyone should.

Shooting is a perishable skill, so I have attended several classes, even recently.

U.S. Navy, trained with and taught handgun.
County LEO training (some of this was legal, not shooting)
A half dozen classes at TDI here in Ohio (not all were handgun)
and a few others I spent money on and walked away thinking I'd wasted my money because their "advanced tactics" or such weren't. Then I remind myself what Clint Smith says*.

I even sat through the "ridiculous" class with my wife. They taught a good drawstroke, trigger management and a lot of good legal advice. It shouldn't be the end of your training, but I'm not sure I'd describe it as ridiculous.

My opinion is that if you want to be in top form should the need arise, you need to take one handgun class a year. Every few years, deliberately take a basics class to refresh the core skills. * "There are no advanced techniques, only fundamentals applied faster and farther away."
 
This thread smells of trolling. I'm sure Sarah Brady would refer to most CCW classes as "ridiculous" and would like to know how many of us have only such "ridiculous" training.
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I dunno, I tend to agree with the OP.

Many of the state required classes teach you little more than enough to be dangerous. They are more concerned with the legal aspects of concealed carry than any practical matters.

That's probably fine from the state's point of view but it certainly doesn't address any real life practical stuff at all.

The Texas CHL class is a joke from the perspective of actually teaching any practical information.

Someone here recently posted that they shot the Texas CHL qualifications with their eyes closed and scored a passing score :)
 
I have taken the Judicious use of Lethal Force lecture with Massad Ayoob, as well as LFI-1 and LFI-2. Also NRA Basic Pistol and am an NRA Instructor.

Basic Pistol is great for teaching people Gun Safety and Gun Storage 101. Self defense isn't touched on in the least.

Out of all of those, the lecture portion of judicious use of lethal force is what I would consider the most valuable. The real tool of self defense is on top of your shoulders. You don't necessarily need a gun.
 
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I have taken the Judicious use of Lethal Force lecture with Massad Ayoob, as well as LFI-1 and LFI-2. Also NRA Basic Pistol and am an NRA Instructor.

Basic Pistol is great for teaching people Gun Safety and Gun Storage 101. Self defense isn't touched on in the least.

Out of all of those, the lecture portion of judicious use of lethal force is what I would consider the most valuable. The real tool of self defense is on top of your shoulders. You don't necessarily need a gun.
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JUoLF or something similar should be on the list of everyone who owns a firearm for self defense. I took it ~4 years ago and it marked the beginning of huge change in my mindset.
 
No type of formal training at all. All my training and experiences are from the streets of Chicago. As many know we have massively great gun laws here so guns are just non existant. See, no crime with guns at all. Yeah, right. Got to fire my first gun in a train station at night so no people around at all. Other great experiences in and with guns was at the Lake Michigan Lake front with .22s at bottles and cans. All before I was 12 years old. Probably thousands or more that carry guns here and no training of any kind since guns are NOT ALLOWED. Can't even buy air rifles around here. Legally that is.
Great examples of little training with guns is apparent at most gun ranges in the far suburbs where the floors, walls and ceilings are full of bullet holes.
 
Carl,

There are actually many opportunities for high quality professional (legal) firearms training within driving distance of the city. Several options are discussed here:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=214656&highlight=greater+chicagoland

and here:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=335831&highlight=tactical+handgun+classes

To keep this on topic, I'd say John Farnam's training is very relevant to the CCW holder. Among other things, he covers gear selection for concealed carry, requires his students to shoot from concealment during the duration of the class, and teaches various nonshooting threat management skillsets. Highly recommended ;)
 
Carl,
There are actually many opportunities for high quality professional (legal) firearms training within driving distance of the city. Several options are discussed here:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...er+chicagoland
and here:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...andgun+classes

Yes I know about those places. For one thing I've already been shooting guns for well over 50 years. Little late to start a training class. Rockford and Plainfield well over 2 hours away unless using a helicopter. Desplaines is OK but your watched, checked and I've known people that have had their homes watched after a visit there. Not sure what is going on but I'll stay away from places like that. Around here even gun ranges are closing down or just no gun range. For example Bellls on Manhiem Road now gone. Gun world in Bensenville wiped out by the O'Hare expansion. The Dupage County Gun shows are getting smaller and smaller and less and less for similar reasons.
 
I have taken the class and a defensive pistol class, and I have watched a lot of youtube :). But not much more than that. I practice at home with my CCW weapon and holsters and clothes to make sure I am able to conceal everything not to mention I practice with my CCW weapon once a week.
 
NC requires 8 hrs to include weapon and legal and a fairly basic competancy shoot. boring as all get out for 'shooters' but it seems pretty balanced between shooter and those who have never even held a gun.

i go to as many local and regional classes as i can afford to.

i'd love to attend a few of the bigger schools for a weeks worth of running and gunning...but time and $ are limiters.
 
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