HoosierQ
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I like the A2 stock and the 20" barrel...the full A2 setup from butt to muzzle.
Who Prefers the A2 Fixed Stocks?
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Z-Michigan
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Or you can get an VLTOR or SOPMOD which doesn't wobble either, and doesn't need a secondary lock to keep it from wobbling.
sansone
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must be adjustable for my needs
Z-Michigan
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The VLTOR original modstock, iMod and eMod are all adjustable, as is the SOPMOD...
Whiskey11
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I'm not sure which VLTOR stock was on my buddies Noveske, but it was horrible and it DID wobble. After about 5 minutes of it interfering with my hearing protection I asked him to remove the battery compartments, that helped some, but now you have the sharp edges poking ya in the side of the face which is a big non-starter.
Personally, I think the Magpul UBR stock is the best of both worlds. Built like a brick house, no wobble, and adjustable. Not to mention you are able to use the same cheek weld every time you site the rifle because the place you put your cheek doesn't move or isn't the buffer tube. I'm not a huge fan of the UBR on carbine length AR's, but that is my own opinion
It's pricey, but worth it IMO.
Personally, I think the Magpul UBR stock is the best of both worlds. Built like a brick house, no wobble, and adjustable. Not to mention you are able to use the same cheek weld every time you site the rifle because the place you put your cheek doesn't move or isn't the buffer tube. I'm not a huge fan of the UBR on carbine length AR's, but that is my own opinion
It's pricey, but worth it IMO.ForumSurfer
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I have the Magpul MOE stock and I love it, especially considering it costs about the same as a regular collapsible stock and it much better quality IMO.
Still, this is my first AR and the collapsible stock hasn't done much for me. I always shoot it fully extended since that is more comfortable for me. The only times the collapsible part comes in handy for me (as a target shooter/plinker) is when my kids shoot it. Fully collapsed is the perfect length for an 8 year old boy.
A shot a friends with the full A2 fixed stock and I like it, very much. I like it, but I'm not putting one on unless I slap on an upper with a 20" barrel.
Still, this is my first AR and the collapsible stock hasn't done much for me. I always shoot it fully extended since that is more comfortable for me. The only times the collapsible part comes in handy for me (as a target shooter/plinker) is when my kids shoot it. Fully collapsed is the perfect length for an 8 year old boy.
A shot a friends with the full A2 fixed stock and I like it, very much. I like it, but I'm not putting one on unless I slap on an upper with a 20" barrel.
okiewita40
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I have to have an adjustable stock. Not because it is a fad but just due to the fact that I am short. Never shot anything with an A1 stock but with an A2 i can barely reach the front handguard.
porscheboy
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My AR has a Magpul MOE collapsible stock currently and I plan on installing a 20 or 24 inch barrel... Im going for the "compact long range" look/application. I am not very fond of the A2 style stock. There are better alternatives such as the "ACE Skeleton Style" Stocks i believe.
Float Pilot
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As a Rifleman, I am mostly into accuracy shooting.
Plus I ate all my vegetables back in the 1960s, so I am too tall for most collapsible stocks.
The fixed A2 stock fits me perfectly.
Plus I ate all my vegetables back in the 1960s, so I am too tall for most collapsible stocks.
The fixed A2 stock fits me perfectly.
Dionysusigma
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My A2 is too short.
madcratebuilder
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Sounds like a commercial(1.168) stock on a milspec(1.148) tube. My EMOD is rock solid.I'm not sure which VLTOR stock was on my buddies Noveske, but it was horrible and it DID wobble. After about 5 minutes of it interfering with my hearing protection I asked him to remove the battery compartments, that helped some, but now you have the sharp edges poking ya in the side of the face which is a big non-starter.
Personally, I think the Magpul UBR stock is the best of both worlds. Built like a brick house, no wobble, and adjustable. Not to mention you are able to use the same cheek weld every time you site the rifle because the place you put your cheek doesn't move or isn't the buffer tube. I'm not a huge fan of the UBR on carbine length AR's, but that is my own opinion
Check out the Vltor EMOD A5, it's longer than any other collapsible stock, A2 length or longer.
Whiskey11
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madcratebuilder said:
Surely Noveske, when ordering directly from, can figure out which stock to put on which buffer tube right? I would hope so anyway!
Then again, thanks to other hobbies, nothing surprises me anymore with manufacturers doing random stuff like that which makes absolutely ZERO sense.Also, the UBR stock at full length is identical to the A2 stock in length (just checked mine here) but is far more utilitarian than the A2 stock for transport
Generally I'm not into the magpul every inch, but they do make some, and I emphasize some rock solid and downright intelligent product.Of course, the best advice here is if you are looking to replace your stock, go try a bunch of stocks out at a gun store or at the range when on an AR and see which you like the best and suits your needs and go from there.
41magsnub
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My A2 stock is just right for me wearing just a T-shirt. Add a jacket and it becomes a little awkward. One of these days I'll maybe around to putting an A1 stock on it. This particular AR-15 is mostly a ding around at the range in nice weather gun so I'm not in a hurry. When I built my carbine sized AR-15 this year, it will wear an adjustable stock.
Back in the Army I was really hosed the day we did a qual fire in MOPP gear and a flak jacket with our M16A2's in summer in Kansas. I couldn't hit crap... couldn't get my head right on the stock, kept fogging up my glasses, and etc. It took me 2 tries to get marksman where in just BDU's and LBE getting sharpshooter just short of expert was a bad day and the middle of the expert range was a good day.
I'm 5'7" with stubby little arms. A shotgun with a youth length stock is only very slightly too short for me.
Back in the Army I was really hosed the day we did a qual fire in MOPP gear and a flak jacket with our M16A2's in summer in Kansas. I couldn't hit crap... couldn't get my head right on the stock, kept fogging up my glasses, and etc. It took me 2 tries to get marksman where in just BDU's and LBE getting sharpshooter just short of expert was a bad day and the middle of the expert range was a good day.
I'm 5'7" with stubby little arms. A shotgun with a youth length stock is only very slightly too short for me.
Z-Michigan
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If Noveske built the whole rifle, then yes, you can bet on them getting it right. But maybe only the receiver or upper were Noveske, or maybe the guy's buddy bought a Noveske with an M4 stock and put on the first VLTOR he saw, which happened to be a commercial-tube-sized one?
As for the UBR, I have one, it's really impressive in design and solidity... and it weighs half a pound more than any other AR stock I've seen. Good or bad depending what you want to do, but bad for a lot of uses.
1KPerDay
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Any of you guys have beards? all collapsibles I've used I got my beard hairs in the junction between the tube and the stock and rip them out. It hurted me. I haven't used a Magpul though... just the "usual" ones.
DoubleTapDrew
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I usually prefer fixed stocks, although if I was wearing body armor or heavy clothing I might prefer a collapsable. My LAR-8 has a fixed, and my dad swapped the collapsable on his LAR-8 for a fixed stock.
My newest AR has a LMT lower and it by far has the tightest collapsable I've felt, no wobble at all. I swapped it for a VLTOR modstock and was thankful it retained it's lack of wobble.
My newest AR has a LMT lower and it by far has the tightest collapsable I've felt, no wobble at all. I swapped it for a VLTOR modstock and was thankful it retained it's lack of wobble.
I HATE that! I have a goatee but I'm sure it would be worse with a full beard. If you are a true operator you'll just shave the portion of your beard off where it contacts the stock
1KPerDay
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I guess true operators just say "GRRR!" and use the pain to get meaner. Then eat raw bear's liver.
ForumSurfer
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But then you'll have to shave both sides when you switch to fire weak hand style. What you would end up with is a hitler-esque stache and a hairy neck.I HATE that! I have a goatee but I'm sure it would be worse with a full beard. If you are a true operator you'll just shave the portion of your beard off where it contacts the stock
I always keep my goatee pretty trim because I get uber-paranoid about leftovers in my facial hair. I get aggravated with all the trimming after a few days and shave it.
Edit:: Wait, don't true operators wear high performance ski masks (tactical facial wear), anyway?
My MOE stock has never grabbed any facial or arm hair...but my facial hair stays short.
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