Who reloads 9mm?

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I reload 124/125gr jacketed 9mm, usually 125gr Zero JHP bullets (8.3 cents ea del.) for gun games.

Using expensive (Vit) powder, my cost is about half of Wally-World's Win value-pak 115gr FMJ price.

I reload and shoot 150-200 rds/week using free range brass.
 
K-Swift:

Ok, you have listed a couple cases I had not read about, previously. And they don't deter me, whatsoever.

You presume to know what actually happened in these cases. For all you know, the shooter in all three cases was a murderer, or an attempted murderer. And in two of the cases, the subject of reloaded ammunition obviously HELPED the shooter's case. In each case you submitted, the shooter was acquitted, except for the case with the woman who may or may not have committed suicide. And the evidence shows it probably wasn't. The defense team tested even his weakest reloads, and anyway you cut it, the guy looked guilty. Even with the weakest reloads, there would have been powder residue on her hands and head. If your arm is 30" long, and you point a 6" revolver at (the back) of your head, that's still under 2 feet away, tops. Just because HIS attorney stated that police initially thought it was a suicide (meaning they contemplated it as a possibility, presumed innocence and all that), that doesn't mean he ever stood a chance of avoiding trial or losing in court, once the forensic evidence came to light - reloads or no. Even if the prosecution admitted it COULD have happened the way he said it did, doesn't mean a jury was ever going to buy it. If true, what are the realistic chances that the loose powder on her head would have ALL fallen off during evidence collection, leaving no trace? What are the chances that his hands completely covered hers from collecting any residue? And how is it that when he pulled the gun away, even with her arm fully stretched, the gun was still able to point at (the back of) her head? Face it, the story is a stretch. If it wasn't a suicide, the subject of reloads certainly helped in his defense. If it was a suicide, he had an uphill battle no matter what. Even if she had powder burns on her head, he was up the creek without a paddle, considering the lack of powder residue on her HANDS, the presence of GSR on HIS hands, and the placement of the shot to the BACK, LEFT side of her head.

The only thing these cases show me is that it's a bad idea to load powder puff rounds for self defense, but we already knew that. And if someone is going to commit suicide with your gun, you better hope they don't load it with your super light wadcutters and pull the trigger while your hands are covering theirs. Again, we already knew that. And that a prosecutor will use anything to make you look bad, no matter how ridiculous and ineffective. Again, we knew that.
 
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K-Swift, I am a long-time reader of Masaad Ayoob and have posted on past THR thread on the advantages of factory JHP over hand/reloaded SD/HD rounds. But just because factory rounds make it forensically more consistent/convenient to duplicate testing, it does not translate to mean that hand/reloads cannot be used for justified SD/HD shooting situations.

It is my opinion and many others that the cases you have posted are not the justified defensive shooting situations in discussion as NH v. Kennedy case dealt with a drunk driver who grabbed the sergeant's pistol (a major no-no in my book going for any officer's pistol) and NJ V. Bias case dealt with the issue of whether the victim's death was suicide, blameless accident, manslaughter, or murder.

Only the TN v. Barnes case dealt with justified shooting where defendant shot the attaker with a large knife in defense of him and his daughter. Even though the defendant used reloaded ammo, defendant won an acquittal.

I do not believe the reloaded ammo ... was the key problem ... We were able to do that without GSR evidence, and Mr. Barnes won an acquittal.


I believe a justified shooting where one uses deadly force in self defense is justified shooting, especially in one's own home. Let's say a home owner was in the process of reloading some lead bullseye reloads for an upcoming cowboy action match and a home invasion robber took place. With only his match revolver at hand and reloaded ammo to use, he loads his revolver and defends his life and his wife's life against an armed attacker. Would the use of reloaded ammo change the justified shooting situation? I would believe no. I do not think whether he used factory ammo or reloaded ammo would change the basis of shooting.

In the same situation, I would use whatever means available to me (even if it meant I had to use the dial caliper on the bench) to defend myself and my wife against an armed attacker. If I had reloaded ammo on the bench and factory ammo in the closet, I would load the closest ammo within reach to save time. If that happened to be reloads, then it would be reloads I would use to defend myself and wife.

Yes, I do advocate the use of factory JHP when it is available/accessible over hand/reloads but a general statement like, "you cannot use hand/reloads for SD/HD" is not accurate.

I am still waiting to see a court case where the use of hand/reloads in a justified shooting situation resulted in a conviction.
 
Back to the original question, I reload 9mm. Current prices (I paid less than this): 135 grain cast bullet $34/500, Wolf SP primer $19/1000, 4.5 grains of Bullseye (4.5 * $14/7000), free brass = 9.6¢ total per round. The price goes down considerably when I use up my stash of bullets and start casting my own 9mm's.

BTW, this is a very hot load, I don't recommend it unless you work up slowly.

To the new question, I use handloads for home defense, and I carry factory ammo -- but I wouldn't really hesitate to carry handloads if I was out of factory stuff.
 
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