Who still has components in stock? (online)

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I'm just now trying to get my foot into reloading, and I'm finding it hard to get what I need. Everything is out of stock or back-ordered. Of course, knowing little, I'm checking only the first page or so of google results, and I realize that some of you who are more experienced may know of some sources not as easily tapped out.

I need these:

Large Rifle Primers (not magnum), preferably CCI mil-spec primers.

30-06 bullets

Powder suitable for a garand (this may not be -that- hard to find) actually looking for Varget.

.40 S&W components

These are the two I'm most interested in reloading for, since I shoot .40's constantly, and because the 30-06 is so damn expensive for factory ammo.

I'll be using Lee classic (whack-o-matic) reloaders, btw, if that makes any difference.

Also, while I plan on buying a reloader's guide at some point, I'm only interested in loading for two things right now; M1 Garand, and Glock G-22 & G-27.

Any tips or advice would be appreciated.
 
I havent searched in a while but these are go to sites. Natchezss. Midway USA. Gamaliel. Cabelas. Bass Pro. Gander Mountain. CTD ( Dont hate on me I didnt say I bought things there. Grafs and Sons. Powder Valley. Try to get your primers and powder from the same place if at all possibe due to Hazmat.

The places I use are powder valley midway natchez and grafs. If you have any little known or brick and mortar local shops they are your best bet for now.

For the .40 you could try berrys bullets, rainier, or montana gold for bulk bullets on the cheap
 
I usually make a point to buy a Lee loader for every caliber I have if it is made, but I don't plan to ever use them unless it is a very rainy day.
I would buy the hand press and hope it never gets worse than that(And the hand press is actually pretty good.).
 
i have a .30-06 whackamole and honestly if you load 20 or so at a time its not bad and only takes 15 or so minutes and they work really well to be so simple. I still use it when i dontfeel like sitting at the press or am on the go. You'll get tired of the .40 loader quite quickly im afraid. Whats your budget?
 
If you haven't already bought the Lee loaders I definitely suggest getting the hand press and dies instead. The hand press won't get as tiring and you'll always be able to use the dies if/when you upgrade to a better press.

Centurian, that brunoshooters.com website is ridiculous. I mean they do have stuff in stock, but $45 for 1k of Wolf primers? Do they come with a can of Crisco or something?!! I think I'd quit shooting for awhile before I paid that, or try to find factory ammo. Is that website always that expensive or are those "panic" prices? And a minimum of 3k primers.
 
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A wack-a-mole reloader for 40 S&W? You sir, are more of a man than me. That or you dont shoot as much, lol.
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I (would like) to shoot approx. 200-300 rounds a month. That's what would make me content/happy.

Of the 30-06, maybe 120 rounds a month, would be nice.

I'm on a low budget, and am literally drooling over all the hand-presses and lead-casting pots I'm seeing in videos and such, but just can't afford the initial expense. I'm planning on spending a total of approx. $300 on getting started on two calibers. I have the time, and the patience, so long as the equipment holds out.

and...I'm very prepared to make do with what I can find, rather than what's ideal. Glocks can take a little punishment, and I've got a ported gas plug for the garand, (plus the relieved op-rod) so I'm pretty confident I can make a few mistakes without hurting anything permanently.
 
300 dollars.. single stage press 70-100 dollars. dies for .30-06 30 dollars (lee neck sizing). .40 carbide dies 50 dollars. harbor freight tumbler 30 dollars. 8 lbs lizard bedding 10 dollars. cheap beam or digital scale 30 dollars. bullet puller 20 dollars. comes out to 270 dollars initial startup. plus components. you could do without the tumbler and bessing if you wanted to and that would knock it down to 230 dollars startup. a few pounds of powder and primers and youre at your 300 dollar limit. Just an idea from someone whos been in your shoes
 
would like) to shoot approx. 200-300 rounds a month. That's what would make me content/happy.

Of the 30-06, maybe 120 rounds a month, would be nice.

I'm on a low budget, and am literally drooling over all the hand-presses and lead-casting pots I'm seeing in videos and such, but just can't afford the initial expense. I'm planning on spending a total of approx. $300 on getting started on two calibers. I have the time, and the patience, so long as the equipment holds out.

and...I'm very prepared to make do with what I can find, rather than what's ideal. Glocks can take a little punishment, and I've got a ported gas plug for the garand, (plus the relieved op-rod) so I'm pretty confident I can make a few mistakes without hurting anything permanently.
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I paid 26 dollars for my first press, brand new from Midway. It was a Lee C press. Cheap, but it made tens of thousands of rounds.

Press, dies, etc, can be done for under 300 easy and have a real press that will be faster and easier to use.
 
Who still has components in stock? (online)
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My best suggestion is to take the names kyhunter provided in post #2:
Natchezss. Midway USA. Gamaliel. Cabelas. Bass Pro. Gander Mountain. CTD ( Dont hate on me I didnt say I bought things there. Grafs and Sons. Powder Valley.
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Check their websites on a real regular basis like 3 or more times a day. Distributors like this have components literally trickle in and make them available. Frequently what they have can be gone in minuets so it becomes a crap shoot or luck of the draw.

As to reloading equipment I would suggest down the road considering used stuff. I see reasonable deals on ArmsList and and other places all the time including this forum. Good equipment that is well maintained doesn't wear out. Old reloaders eventually check out and the family sells off their stuff.

Ron
 
KanSas: I agree it's absurd, I have no idea what they're prices are "normally" like. I just happened across the page when looking for stuff 'in stock' and was surprised to find .308 SMK 168grs in stock as well as so many primers. More than I'll pay (for the primers) but if I had none and couldn't find any anywhere else...
 
I'm pretty sure the Lee Loader only neck sizes bottleneck rifle cases.. that'd be a bad move for an M1. I could be wrong though
 
Certaindeaf: great catch! I completely missed that match up of factors.

PaperZombie: if you can't find ANY .308 bullets PM me and I might be able to help you with a few to get started.
 
I'm on a low budget, and am literally drooling over all the hand-presses and lead-casting pots I'm seeing in videos and such, but just can't afford the initial expense. I'm planning on spending a total of approx. $300 on getting started on two calibers. I have the time, and the patience, so long as the equipment holds out.
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That is easily done if you're patient. You can't be in a hurry right now, as reloading tools are scarce. Lee equipment may not be the best on the market, but you can get a serviceable kit with a real press, scale, powder thrower, hand priming tool, a set of shell holders, etc. for under $125. That leaves $175 for dies and components. You will have to wait till it's in stock. They're estimating the end of May at the moment. Here it is.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/121744/lee-challenger-breech-lock-single-stage-press-kit

If I were starting on a tight budget, this is the kit I would start with.
 
In stock Anniversary Kit. It comes with the safety prime for on press priming.
https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-50th-anniversary-kit-90050.html

In stock Challenger kit. It comes with the Auto-Prime XR instead for off press priming.
https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-breechlock-challenger-kit-90030.html

Definitely buy some bushings.
https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-breech-lock-bushings-90600.html

While $300 seems pretty reasonable, it adds up fast. If you can't find your components locally, I think it would be tough to buy just the components for $300.

$119 for press kit of your choice
$16 for 4 bushings
$33 pistol dies
$20 RGB rifle set
$25 shipping
$213

Powder and primers
$50 two lbs of powder
$80 for 2k primers
$27 hazmat
$25 shipping
$182

Bullets
$70 500-40 Cal bullets
$50 200-30 cal FMJ bullets
$25 shipping
$145

Total: $550

I don't think you can load for a Garand with a Lee Loader. Something to do with the firing pin protruding while it is going into battery, not full length resizing and bad juju with out of battery firing. There is a member here by the name of slamfire that is very knowledgeable about this issue.

Cheapest reloading setup that uses dies.
$32 Lee Reloader press
$27 Lee Safety scale
$12 Lee Ram Prime
$71 subtotal
$33 pistol dies
$20 RGB rifle set
$3 powder funnel
$25 shipping
$152 total
Throw in a can of mink oil for your leather shoes and a plastic spoon to trickle powder and you are printing money. Once you get a load developed, you can cut off some shells, twist a wire around them and have some custom made dippers to speed the weighing of your charges.

However, for the price difference with the challenger kit, you get 1) Better press. 2) MUCH better priming system. 3) Cutter and lockstud for trimming your 30-06 cases 4) You can get it today (but not the dies) 5)misc. little stuff.
 
I have a couple of thoughts here for you.

Big problem #1 is that the Lee Loader for the 40 CAL is currently no longer made. The only way to get one is to find a used one that somebody no longer needs. Presses have become so cheap that a Lee loader in EVERY caliber is no longer worth their while to produce.

Big problem#2 as already mentioned is the Lee Loader only neck sizes the brass on bottle necked cartridges and that is a really bad idea to use for loading in anything other than a bolt or single shot firearm.

There is a hand held press that Lee makes and uses standard shell holders and dies but it is also slowish to use. I own one and use it at the range sometimes. If you want to make as much ammo as you say then the Lee Loader is too slow for you IMHO. Do you regularly fill your coffee cup with a thimble or buy one item at a time at the store and go back home to check your list? Using a Lee Loader will get old really really quick loading more than 20 or so rounds at a time. I have several of them and will often break them out to show a new reloader how slow they are to use compared to an inexpensive single stage press. Once you have that SS press kit another die set is all you need to start reloading a new caliber. Save your money for a bit longer, beg or whatever to get a decent starter kit.

You are going to need at least one good reloading how to book, calipers, and a way to trim your rifle brass after 2-3 firings or you will have to discard them due to being over length. For now washing and drying your brass with soap and water will do. It is not necessary to make your brass look like new stuff to reuse it. After resizing the 30-06 you will have to remove the case lube before you shoot it in a Garand. Actually you should do this with all ammo.

If you can get somebody in your local area to mentor you in the beginning that will be a great help. Hands on with the tools you do need to use will be a real eye opener for you.:) You Tube and editing for time are NOT your friend.:D IMHO if reloading was as easy as everyone says, every firearm would come with the tools to reload for it when purchased.:rolleyes:

PS: IF you can wait a while I am willing to bet that a lot of fair weather reloaders will be dumping their equipment when inexpensive ammo becomes available once again and you will be able to get some really inexpensive slightly used stuff.;)

Now remember that I am still learning new stuff all the time and could be wrong about any of this above, after all I have only been reloading for 30+ years now.:)
 
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Palmetto State Armory here in Columbia has lots of CCI 7.62 Mil Spec primers in stock for $37. They don't list them on their website, and I am not sure if they will ship them but it might be worth a call. You could order several thousand to cover the haz mat fee.

Varget is just about non-existant right now. I have been looking everywhere. Powder Valley got in la bunch of Sierra bullets and then sold out quickly. PSA has thousands of Sierra Match King 168 and 175 grain bullets in stock.

Good luck!
 
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