Schuey2002
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Peter Jennings (who was born in Toronto, Ontario) is the only one that I'm aware of..
Are you referring to .. Kiran Chetry.
Lets not forget about the lovely.. Alicia Acuna.
"who's the worst TV anchor coving the war" ???
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Lets not forget about the lovely.. Alicia Acuna.
mons meg
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Aaron Brown could use some work. I tried to watch some Fox news coverage, but they employ Geraldo, and Bill O'Reilly makes my stomach turn. On the bright side, CNN has canceled Connie Chung Tonight as well as Talkback Live...the two worst shows they had.
Say what you want about CNN, but their "embeds" have the best assignments. 7th Cav...15th MEU...I mean Koppel is riding along with the main part of the 3rd ID while the CNN no-name guy is up front with the armored scouts.
Also, I think CNN's military analysts have a bit more "street cred". The lowest ranking analyst I have seen is Col Hackworth, and he has one hell of a fruit salad on his chest. The only guy I saw on Fox was a captain...
Say what you want about CNN, but their "embeds" have the best assignments. 7th Cav...15th MEU...I mean Koppel is riding along with the main part of the 3rd ID while the CNN no-name guy is up front with the armored scouts.
Also, I think CNN's military analysts have a bit more "street cred". The lowest ranking analyst I have seen is Col Hackworth, and he has one hell of a fruit salad on his chest. The only guy I saw on Fox was a captain...
Thumper
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Aaron Brown has gotten too hard to watch. I usually use the "recall" button on the remote to go to CNN during commercials on FoxNews. Not when 'ol Aaron's on, though.
My favorite pair are Laurie Dhue (mmmmmm, dreamy) and that fast talking speed freak Col. Hunt.
Rita Crosby is ruining FoxNews for me...in one ten minute period, she explained how A-10s and then F-117s were flying in from carriers.
My favorite pair are Laurie Dhue (mmmmmm, dreamy) and that fast talking speed freak Col. Hunt.
Rita Crosby is ruining FoxNews for me...in one ten minute period, she explained how A-10s and then F-117s were flying in from carriers.
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Fox REALLY lays on the cheesecake, don't they?
Anyway, unfortunately Fox folks really aren't any smarter than the MSNBC or CNN people. Quality of coverage and "analysis" seems about the same to me, i.e. pretty lame. All of them are pretty much perfectly ignorant of all things military. What makes Fox more watchable for me is the fact that the people, while dopey journalists, don't seem as morally offensive to me as the alternatives. Not so much because they are conservative, but because they don't seem to smack their chops with glee whenever something happens that they can misconstrue as a military "setback."
That, and the hot women.
Anyway, unfortunately Fox folks really aren't any smarter than the MSNBC or CNN people. Quality of coverage and "analysis" seems about the same to me, i.e. pretty lame. All of them are pretty much perfectly ignorant of all things military. What makes Fox more watchable for me is the fact that the people, while dopey journalists, don't seem as morally offensive to me as the alternatives. Not so much because they are conservative, but because they don't seem to smack their chops with glee whenever something happens that they can misconstrue as a military "setback."
That, and the hot women.
seeker_two
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Yep. Guess I got too involved w/ the news to spell her name correctly...
Shalako
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Jennings!
This schmuck flat out turns my stomach. I now use his name as a synonym for anything disgusting and reviled. An example of which would be, lets say, an impromptu case of diarheah in one's pants. i.e. "Honey, I just had another Jennings. "
The other day, with his condecending smirk and tone, he droned on about the M1 Abrams, "Isn't it true that it is the biggest gas guzzler in the world?" And I am somehow supposed to assume he is for the American effort in Iraq?
Ahhhhhh!
I'm about to Jennings again just tinking about that @#$*&%!!!
This schmuck flat out turns my stomach. I now use his name as a synonym for anything disgusting and reviled. An example of which would be, lets say, an impromptu case of diarheah in one's pants. i.e. "Honey, I just had another Jennings.
"The other day, with his condecending smirk and tone, he droned on about the M1 Abrams, "Isn't it true that it is the biggest gas guzzler in the world?" And I am somehow supposed to assume he is for the American effort in Iraq?
Ahhhhhh!
I'm about to Jennings again just tinking about that @#$*&%!!!
Greybeard
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444 Quote: "I have been off for about a week and also haven't been feeling good, so I have been putting in a lot of time watching war coverage ... "
' Am with ya there, friend, but have sorta recognized that too much of the tube in these times makes me grumpy quick. Maybe time for a little more of the great outdoors?
' Am with ya there, friend, but have sorta recognized that too much of the tube in these times makes me grumpy quick.
Maybe time for a little more of the great outdoors? (Ret.) Maj.Bob Bevalaqua, IIRC.
Back before Iraq and possibly before Afghanistan, they were using him as a talking head to discuss terrorism and security. THe anchor asked the question we all love to ask here, "But is there any way that the government can protect everyone, everywhere?" he responded:
Anyway:
Worst? No idea. I'm so very not watching anyone but FNC.
Best?
For substance: Neil Cavuto, O'Reilly (not really an anchor), Sean Hannity (same).
For looks, with zero liability in the substance deptartment: Linda Vester, for some reason. And I don't even like blondes.
The only downside of all of this news coverage is that its been awhile since I last saw my girl from NBC4 (now at FNC), Dari Alexander. mmmmmmmm...purty.
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Mike
Back before Iraq and possibly before Afghanistan, they were using him as a talking head to discuss terrorism and security. THe anchor asked the question we all love to ask here, "But is there any way that the government can protect everyone, everywhere?" he responded:
I am not joking, and I nearly fell off my Nordictrack.
Anyway:
Worst? No idea. I'm so very not watching anyone but FNC.
Best?
For substance: Neil Cavuto, O'Reilly (not really an anchor), Sean Hannity (same).
For looks, with zero liability in the substance deptartment: Linda Vester, for some reason. And I don't even like blondes.
The only downside of all of this news coverage is that its been awhile since I last saw my girl from NBC4 (now at FNC), Dari Alexander. mmmmmmmm...purty.
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Mike
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My vote:
Neck and neck between Arrogant Brown and Peter Lemmings.
Neck and neck between Arrogant Brown and Peter Lemmings.
Schuey2002
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One of the best moments that I've ever seen on cable news involved the Major.
Right after 9/11 he was on a FNC show ( I forgot which one ) where the discussion was about security and how to protect a building such as the one they were filming in..
He was sitting there not saying much as the host ( Shep, I believe) was gabbing away about security issues when the Major suddenly opens up his jacket and plops a M4/CAR-15 type rifle on the news desk.
He looks over at the host and says something to the fact that he snuck the rifle into the building without anyone noticing..Now, that's something that you'll never see on the Tailwind Network!!
TheeBadOne
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Dan Rather
Dan Rather by a landslide.
Dan Rather by a landslide.
okay, okay, MAJ B. just went up a couple of notches in my book. I'd written him off as another former special operator with only a limited understanding above the operational level, but hey, on air demonstrations of reality count for big points!
sig970
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Peter Arnett: Traitor
bad_dad_brad
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The blathering ignorant rubber faced "what is the frequency Kenneth" Dan Rather, and the condescending ever smirking Canadian Peter Jennings are the worst anchors. A disgrace to network television, both of them.
Where is Howard Beal, the mad prophet of the air waves, when you need him?
Where is Howard Beal, the mad prophet of the air waves, when you need him?
Yeah, I think Peter Arnett just 'elevated' himself from "stupid but irrelevant" to "stunningly stupid, criminal, traitorous, and irrelevant."
Way to go, Pete! In the Great Limbo Dance of Journalism, you just lowered the bar one more notch.
Mike
Way to go, Pete! In the Great Limbo Dance of Journalism, you just lowered the bar one more notch.
Mike
NBC's Peter Arnett:
War plan has failed
Controversial reporter tells Iraqi TV
of growing opposition in U.S. to war
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Posted: March 31, 2003
6:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joe Kovacs
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
Peter Arnett, the veteran correspondent covering his second Gulf War, says the U.S. war plan has failed and there is growing opposition in America to the conflict in Iraq.
Peter Arnett on Iraqi TV
"Clearly, the American war planners misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces," Arnett told Iraqi TV. "That is why now America is reappraising the battlefield, delaying the war, maybe a week, and rewriting the war plan. The first war plan has failed because of Iraqi resistance now they are trying to write another war plan."
Formerly with Cable News Network, Arnett left CNN in the wake of the Tailwind reporting fiasco originally exposed by WorldNetDaily in 1998. Arnett is now a reporter for "National Geographic Explorer" and NBC News.
During his interview with the state-run television network in Baghdad, Arnett also said Iraq has given him and other journalists a "degree of freedom which we appreciate," despite the fact that several reporters including CNN's Baghdad bureau have been expelled by Iraq, and two reporters for New York Newsday are reportedly in prison.
Arnett began the interview by praising Iraqi officials for the way they've handled journalists during both Gulf Wars:
"I'd like to say from the beginning that the 12 years I've been coming here, I've met unfailing courtesy and cooperation – courtesy from your people, and cooperation from the Ministry of Information, which has allowed me and many other reporters to cover 12 whole years since the Gulf War with a degree of freedom which we appreciate. And that is continuing today."
He then told the Iraqi interviewer dressed in an army uniform about his thoughts on what was happening back in America:
"It is clear that within the United States there is growing challenge to President Bush about the conduct of the war and also opposition to the war. So our reports about civilian casualties here, about the resistance of the Iraqi forces, are going back to the United States. It helps those who oppose the war when you challenge the policy to develop their arguments."
Arnett – who won a Pulitzer Prize reporting in Vietnam for the Associated Press – went on to proffer his thoughts about the weakness in the U.S. stance:
I think American policy and strategy is the weakest when it comes to the Iraqi people. The U.S. administration is concerned with the possibility of killing civilians, because the international community is very concerned about the Iraqi people. President Bush says he is concerned about the Iraqi people, but if Iraqi people are dying in numbers, then American policy will be challenged very strongly.
For that reason, the Pentagon keeps saying that the civilian casualties, particularly in Baghdad in the last three or four days, at the market places -- the Pentagon says -- well they are Iraqi missiles that land amongst the people. They keep saying that, but of course the Iraqi government says they are clearly cruise missiles that hit the population. ...
For that reason the Pentagon keeps saying that maybe it is an Iraqi missile that hit the population and not a U.S. ...
Whenever I gave a report on civilian casualties on CNN (in the first Gulf War) the Pentagon and the Bush administration got very angry and called me a traitor. ...
However, when missiles hit the Al-Maria shelter in early February of 1991, killing nearly 400 women and children, the Bush administration had to admit that they were responsible. And when that happened, there was a different attitude to the war. They had to try and complete the war fast, because the world criticized that bombing very severely.
In a prepared statement, NBC said "Peter Arnett and his crew have risked their lives to bring the American people up-to-date, straightforward information on what is happening in and around Baghdad." The network owned by General Electric said Arnett's "impromptu interview with Iraqi TV was done as a professional courtesy and was similar to other interviews he has done with media outlets from around the world. His remarks were analytical in nature and were not intended to be anything more."
Arnett gained much attention during his reporting for CNN during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, angering the first Bush administration which suggested he had become a propaganda tool for Saddam.
The military denounced him for claiming that the allied bombing of a biological weapons plant in Baghdad was a baby-milk factory.
On June 7, 1998, Arnett was the CNN reporter on a broadcast of "NewsStand" which accused U.S. army commandos of using sarin nerve gas in a top secret operation known as "Tailwind" during the Vietnam War.
The report accused Tailwind participants of using the lethal gas against American defectors who were hiding in a small village in Laos. The entire village and all in it were reportedly wiped out in about 10 minutes.
The Tailwind story was first exposed as a fraud in WorldNetDaily, and both the network and Time magazine were forced to issue apologies and retractions. Arnett subsequently left CNN when his contract was not renewed.
For the present conflict with Iraq, Arnett is working for the MSNBC show, "National Geographic Explorer." NBC began airing his reports when other reporters left the region for safety reasons.
He told April 5 issue of TV Guide he felt some redemption reporting on the current war.
"I was furious with [CNN founder] Ted Turner and [then-CNN chairman] Tom Johnson when they threw me to the wolves after I made them billions risking my life to cover the first Gulf War," Arnett told TV Guide.
"Now [Turner and Johnson] are gone, the Iraqis have thrown the CNN crew out of Baghdad, and I'm still here," he said. "Any satisfaction in that? Ha, ha, ha, ha. ...
"The Iraqis have let me stay because they see me as a fellow warrior. They know I might not agree with them, but I've got their respect."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31798
War plan has failed
Controversial reporter tells Iraqi TV
of growing opposition in U.S. to war
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: March 31, 2003
6:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joe Kovacs
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
Peter Arnett, the veteran correspondent covering his second Gulf War, says the U.S. war plan has failed and there is growing opposition in America to the conflict in Iraq.
Peter Arnett on Iraqi TV
"Clearly, the American war planners misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces," Arnett told Iraqi TV. "That is why now America is reappraising the battlefield, delaying the war, maybe a week, and rewriting the war plan. The first war plan has failed because of Iraqi resistance now they are trying to write another war plan."
Formerly with Cable News Network, Arnett left CNN in the wake of the Tailwind reporting fiasco originally exposed by WorldNetDaily in 1998. Arnett is now a reporter for "National Geographic Explorer" and NBC News.
During his interview with the state-run television network in Baghdad, Arnett also said Iraq has given him and other journalists a "degree of freedom which we appreciate," despite the fact that several reporters including CNN's Baghdad bureau have been expelled by Iraq, and two reporters for New York Newsday are reportedly in prison.
Arnett began the interview by praising Iraqi officials for the way they've handled journalists during both Gulf Wars:
"I'd like to say from the beginning that the 12 years I've been coming here, I've met unfailing courtesy and cooperation – courtesy from your people, and cooperation from the Ministry of Information, which has allowed me and many other reporters to cover 12 whole years since the Gulf War with a degree of freedom which we appreciate. And that is continuing today."
He then told the Iraqi interviewer dressed in an army uniform about his thoughts on what was happening back in America:
"It is clear that within the United States there is growing challenge to President Bush about the conduct of the war and also opposition to the war. So our reports about civilian casualties here, about the resistance of the Iraqi forces, are going back to the United States. It helps those who oppose the war when you challenge the policy to develop their arguments."
Arnett – who won a Pulitzer Prize reporting in Vietnam for the Associated Press – went on to proffer his thoughts about the weakness in the U.S. stance:
I think American policy and strategy is the weakest when it comes to the Iraqi people. The U.S. administration is concerned with the possibility of killing civilians, because the international community is very concerned about the Iraqi people. President Bush says he is concerned about the Iraqi people, but if Iraqi people are dying in numbers, then American policy will be challenged very strongly.
For that reason, the Pentagon keeps saying that the civilian casualties, particularly in Baghdad in the last three or four days, at the market places -- the Pentagon says -- well they are Iraqi missiles that land amongst the people. They keep saying that, but of course the Iraqi government says they are clearly cruise missiles that hit the population. ...
For that reason the Pentagon keeps saying that maybe it is an Iraqi missile that hit the population and not a U.S. ...
Whenever I gave a report on civilian casualties on CNN (in the first Gulf War) the Pentagon and the Bush administration got very angry and called me a traitor. ...
However, when missiles hit the Al-Maria shelter in early February of 1991, killing nearly 400 women and children, the Bush administration had to admit that they were responsible. And when that happened, there was a different attitude to the war. They had to try and complete the war fast, because the world criticized that bombing very severely.
In a prepared statement, NBC said "Peter Arnett and his crew have risked their lives to bring the American people up-to-date, straightforward information on what is happening in and around Baghdad." The network owned by General Electric said Arnett's "impromptu interview with Iraqi TV was done as a professional courtesy and was similar to other interviews he has done with media outlets from around the world. His remarks were analytical in nature and were not intended to be anything more."
Arnett gained much attention during his reporting for CNN during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, angering the first Bush administration which suggested he had become a propaganda tool for Saddam.
The military denounced him for claiming that the allied bombing of a biological weapons plant in Baghdad was a baby-milk factory.
On June 7, 1998, Arnett was the CNN reporter on a broadcast of "NewsStand" which accused U.S. army commandos of using sarin nerve gas in a top secret operation known as "Tailwind" during the Vietnam War.
The report accused Tailwind participants of using the lethal gas against American defectors who were hiding in a small village in Laos. The entire village and all in it were reportedly wiped out in about 10 minutes.
The Tailwind story was first exposed as a fraud in WorldNetDaily, and both the network and Time magazine were forced to issue apologies and retractions. Arnett subsequently left CNN when his contract was not renewed.
For the present conflict with Iraq, Arnett is working for the MSNBC show, "National Geographic Explorer." NBC began airing his reports when other reporters left the region for safety reasons.
He told April 5 issue of TV Guide he felt some redemption reporting on the current war.
"I was furious with [CNN founder] Ted Turner and [then-CNN chairman] Tom Johnson when they threw me to the wolves after I made them billions risking my life to cover the first Gulf War," Arnett told TV Guide.
"Now [Turner and Johnson] are gone, the Iraqis have thrown the CNN crew out of Baghdad, and I'm still here," he said. "Any satisfaction in that? Ha, ha, ha, ha. ...
"The Iraqis have let me stay because they see me as a fellow warrior. They know I might not agree with them, but I've got their respect."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31798
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