Why are Rugers looked at...........
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Since when does aesthetics have anything to do with automatics? Are Glocks aesthetically pleasing? Hardly. Massad Ayoob speaks very highly of the Rugers, which are supposed to be flawlessly reliable. Ditto with the Glocks, Berettas and others. Almost all the new pistols are way more reliable than just about any 1911. True, 1911s are beautiful guns, but I've never seen one come out of a box being as reliable as I would want.
I agree that it has to be the aesthetics. Rugers are not quite as pretty as some, but they are great guns.
I'm a hardcore 1911 fan, but my buddy has an ugly as sin Ruger auto in .45 and it never misses a beat. His Mark III is not as picky over ammo as my Buckmark.
IMO, Ruger revolvers are 2nd to none. They are over engineered to the hilt and will shoot heavy loads forever when lesser guns (Smiths, specifically) will start to fall apart. I saw this happen personally between a SuperRedhawk and a S&W 629. The Ruger was cheaper up front, so I spent $100 for a gunsmith to smooth up the cylinder and trigger. After that, I prefered the trigger of the Ruger.
I'm a hardcore 1911 fan, but my buddy has an ugly as sin Ruger auto in .45 and it never misses a beat. His Mark III is not as picky over ammo as my Buckmark.
IMO, Ruger revolvers are 2nd to none. They are over engineered to the hilt and will shoot heavy loads forever when lesser guns (Smiths, specifically) will start to fall apart. I saw this happen personally between a SuperRedhawk and a S&W 629. The Ruger was cheaper up front, so I spent $100 for a gunsmith to smooth up the cylinder and trigger. After that, I prefered the trigger of the Ruger.
Aesthetics are a minor issue, but still an issue... ergonomics are another.
You know what I thought when I heard Ruger was making a 9mm? I thought wow, a centerfire single action built up from thier target pistols! And then I saw the chunky P-85. It was like finding out there was no Santa Claus.
Heck, I thought Sigs were ugly 'til I fired one. They feel GOOD in my hand. But I don't like don't like DA/SA autos. My .22 pistol was SA, my first centerfire pistol was a Colt Commander.
Even though the Ruger was priced right, it wasn't what I wanted.
You know what I thought when I heard Ruger was making a 9mm? I thought wow, a centerfire single action built up from thier target pistols! And then I saw the chunky P-85. It was like finding out there was no Santa Claus.
Heck, I thought Sigs were ugly 'til I fired one. They feel GOOD in my hand. But I don't like don't like DA/SA autos. My .22 pistol was SA, my first centerfire pistol was a Colt Commander.
Even though the Ruger was priced right, it wasn't what I wanted.
Waywatcher
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I have owned three Ruger pistols (P89, P345, GP-100) and thought they were all clumsy, uncomfortable, utterly reliable weapons.
I have found I prefer more comfortable, sleeker guns that are just as reliable and a bit more expensive. Like Smith & Wessons and Glocks.
I dont knock people for their personal choice. I shot alongside a guy with a $100 9mm (Bryco?) and it has worked 100% for him, and I have also seen jammed Kimbers. YMMV
I have found I prefer more comfortable, sleeker guns that are just as reliable and a bit more expensive. Like Smith & Wessons and Glocks.
I dont knock people for their personal choice. I shot alongside a guy with a $100 9mm (Bryco?) and it has worked 100% for him, and I have also seen jammed Kimbers. YMMV
They have their advantages and disadvantages, just like any other make.
IMO, their centerfire autos and revolvers are just as reliable and accurate as any other combat grade weapon, and primary advantage is value in durability. Very robust, solidly built guns for not very much cash.
Generally, they are not very light/small per capacity, and can even make GLOCK look good. Can't absolutely say ergonomics are inferior, because that's highly a ymmv factor. There are those whose hands might fit ruger pistols best.
I bought a Ruger P89 (stainles dao), GP100 (stainless 4" adj), and a kmk678gc (stainless mkII competition). The mk II is the only one I still have. Not that I had problems with the centerfires per se, but that they were eventually replaced by superior solutions for my purposes. I will never carry the govt competition model, so weight etc non issue there- but for me, a GLOCK is worth the cash over a Ruger.
IMO, their centerfire autos and revolvers are just as reliable and accurate as any other combat grade weapon, and primary advantage is value in durability. Very robust, solidly built guns for not very much cash.
Generally, they are not very light/small per capacity, and can even make GLOCK look good. Can't absolutely say ergonomics are inferior, because that's highly a ymmv factor. There are those whose hands might fit ruger pistols best.
I bought a Ruger P89 (stainles dao), GP100 (stainless 4" adj), and a kmk678gc (stainless mkII competition). The mk II is the only one I still have. Not that I had problems with the centerfires per se, but that they were eventually replaced by superior solutions for my purposes. I will never carry the govt competition model, so weight etc non issue there- but for me, a GLOCK is worth the cash over a Ruger.
boomer1911a1
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Where is Ghostrider?
He started this thread four months ago, and hasn't uttered a peep since. Have you bought one, yet, Ghost?
As for my input, I LOVE Rugers, despite some minor flaws with the MkII 22/45 I currently own. I've owned (and reluctantly sold) half a dozen variants of the P90, A Redhawk .44 Mag, a Single-six, a variety of Blackhawks and a number of 10/22s, PLUS the P345 I currently carry. And I will someday own more: A MkIII Hunter, a .480 Super Redhawk, maybe the new (accurized) Mini-14, maybe one of their shotguns if I win a lottery...
Like Mas Ayoob once noted, the P-series pistols are the Dodge trucks of the handgun world. Thick, clunky, over-engineered, they were designed for abuse. During the military sidearm trials of the late 80s, company techs screwed a bolt into the muzzle of a P-89 and then fired it in a bench rest -- twice. It bulged the barrel but the thing held together. That's MY kind of weapon!
He started this thread four months ago, and hasn't uttered a peep since. Have you bought one, yet, Ghost?
As for my input, I LOVE Rugers, despite some minor flaws with the MkII 22/45 I currently own. I've owned (and reluctantly sold) half a dozen variants of the P90, A Redhawk .44 Mag, a Single-six, a variety of Blackhawks and a number of 10/22s, PLUS the P345 I currently carry. And I will someday own more: A MkIII Hunter, a .480 Super Redhawk, maybe the new (accurized) Mini-14, maybe one of their shotguns if I win a lottery...
Like Mas Ayoob once noted, the P-series pistols are the Dodge trucks of the handgun world. Thick, clunky, over-engineered, they were designed for abuse. During the military sidearm trials of the late 80s, company techs screwed a bolt into the muzzle of a P-89 and then fired it in a bench rest -- twice. It bulged the barrel but the thing held together. That's MY kind of weapon!
Feanaro
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I haven't tried their newer 'uns but Ruger's centerfire pistols always felt clunky and over-sized for me. I'll echo the bit about the decocker too. The first time I decocked one I thought "Thank God I didn't do that over a live round, it must have broken or something."
JohnBT
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I like Ruger revolvers and think the autoloaders are reliable, if a little chunky looking.
On the subject of Mercedes, take a look at what Consumer Reports had to say about the 2006 models: "Mercedes-Benz, on the other hand, does not have a single model reliable enough to be recommended."
On the subject of Mercedes, take a look at what Consumer Reports had to say about the 2006 models: "Mercedes-Benz, on the other hand, does not have a single model reliable enough to be recommended."
The only part of their line I don't care for are the automatics - they don't really offer me anything (aesthetically, mechanically or in cost) over any other brand. CZs meet all my demands for the same or less money.
The Mini 14 Target looks like a fun rifle - something I'd seriously consider selling my Bushmaster AR for if they work right.
The Mini 14 Target looks like a fun rifle - something I'd seriously consider selling my Bushmaster AR for if they work right.
cmidkiff
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Ruger guns are known to be high quality, safe, solidly built firearms. I have nothing personal against them, but I don't own one. There's simply other guns out there that I like better.
I don't want a 4 line 'safety billboard' stamped on my gun, and you still can't get >10 round mags for their auto-loaders. Regardless of how you feel about Bill's politics, a full size 9mm pistol with a 10 round magazine is at a competitive disadvantage.
As far as calling them ugly... well... They're quite attractive compared to many other firearms
I don't want a 4 line 'safety billboard' stamped on my gun, and you still can't get >10 round mags for their auto-loaders. Regardless of how you feel about Bill's politics, a full size 9mm pistol with a 10 round magazine is at a competitive disadvantage.
As far as calling them ugly... well... They're quite attractive compared to many other firearms
the pistolero
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LOL! Funny, but true. The Ruger P-guns won't win any beauty contests, that's for sure, but I'll never part with mine...
Titanvk56
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I have always thought their stuff was butt-ugly, except maybe for their SA's.
Always heard they make quality stuff and their customer service was top notch.
Bought my first Ruger SA 3 weeks ago and I had to send it to Ruger for a timing problem.
Jury is still out on Ruger as far as I am concerned.
Always heard they make quality stuff and their customer service was top notch.
Bought my first Ruger SA 3 weeks ago and I had to send it to Ruger for a timing problem.
Jury is still out on Ruger as far as I am concerned.
Big Gay Al
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The first large caliber revolver I ever owned was a Ruger Police Service Six in .357 magnum. I have to tell you, I thought that was one beautiful revolver. It had pleasing lines, and it felt good in the hand. And for a fixed sight weapon, I found it to be very accurate.
P.S. I've been told you can get 15 round mags for their 9mm auto pistols that were built to hold 15 rounds.
P.S. I've been told you can get 15 round mags for their 9mm auto pistols that were built to hold 15 rounds.
Ruger's rock buddy. Tell that guy to get lost. IN my opinion i would take a Ruger over a Springfield, Taurus, Or Smith and Wesson, or any other american armeror. The p95 is alot better then any 9mm i have ever shot. The p345 is terrible and i will never buy another one.
I gave the P90
to my son for home defense. To carry is another matter, fairly large.
But shoots every time anytime and extremely accurate.
I have an SP-101 and really like it. Had a Blackhawk .357, had a Blackhawk 44 Mag also, now that off a sandbag and tricking the sights got 4-5" groups at 100 yards. Handloaded with H-110 ball powder. Shot it to death.
Ruger makes great guns.
to my son for home defense. To carry is another matter, fairly large.
But shoots every time anytime and extremely accurate.
I have an SP-101 and really like it. Had a Blackhawk .357, had a Blackhawk 44 Mag also, now that off a sandbag and tricking the sights got 4-5" groups at 100 yards. Handloaded with H-110 ball powder. Shot it to death.
Ruger makes great guns.
SouthpawShootr
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Oh, no doubt about it, Ruger semis are ugly. But they're also super tough. I feel they're a bit oversized but they're great values. Completely function at about $150 less than a Glock new. Owners may have to work a little at effective concealment, but otherwise, I'd feel very well protected with one.
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i love old ruger stuff. new ruger stuff i just hate, and i feel let down. and then the whole political thing makes me feel betrayed.
regardless of what ruger has done lately, ill always love the 10/22, the mark1 and mark2 22lr pistols, and ill never stop loving the blackhawk 3 screw revolver. those old guns will always have a special place in my heart and i wont let lame newer products or lame political moves ruin the relationship i have with my beloved chunks of metal.
regardless of what ruger has done lately, ill always love the 10/22, the mark1 and mark2 22lr pistols, and ill never stop loving the blackhawk 3 screw revolver. those old guns will always have a special place in my heart and i wont let lame newer products or lame political moves ruin the relationship i have with my beloved chunks of metal.
Jkwas
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My Ruger P89 is the most reliable, accurate pistol I have. It's easy to maintain and takes aftermarket mags with no problems. It's a bear to ccw though. My only complaint. But it's a lot of fun at the range and good for home defense. It also doubles as a hammer!
Skywarp
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Im of the opinion you shouldnt have to work hard to have to conceal a CCW gun.
I could not imagine trying to CCW a ruger in a warm climate. Might have to cut your leg off and hide it in the prosthetic
I could not imagine trying to CCW a ruger in a warm climate. Might have to cut your leg off and hide it in the prosthetic
Tom Servo
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The only Ruger I have is a Vaquero, which is a nice mod on the Colt SAA (transfer-bar, free-wheeling cylinder). It's beautifully fitted and finished, and like all Ruger's, it's built like a tank.
I've never liked their autoloaders because they're heavy and they don't fit my hands, BUT I have NEVER seen one fail (and I've seen some that have been horribly neglected). Sure, they're not pretty, but they're reliable, and for someone on a budget, that may be a minor concern.
I've never liked their autoloaders because they're heavy and they don't fit my hands, BUT I have NEVER seen one fail (and I've seen some that have been horribly neglected). Sure, they're not pretty, but they're reliable, and for someone on a budget, that may be a minor concern.
MikeWSC
First of all, never get rid of a firearm just because of what someone else says. If you enjoy the gun and its safe to shoot keep it. If you'd like an HK as a new shootin iron, by all means get it.
I own quite a few Rugers, from the 10/22, autoloaders, wheel guns and
a Red Label. I've teken more deer with my .44 Super Blackhawk than any
other gun. They all shoot great!!!! AND I like the way Rugers look!!!
First of all, never get rid of a firearm just because of what someone else says. If you enjoy the gun and its safe to shoot keep it. If you'd like an HK as a new shootin iron, by all means get it.
I own quite a few Rugers, from the 10/22, autoloaders, wheel guns and
a Red Label. I've teken more deer with my .44 Super Blackhawk than any
other gun. They all shoot great!!!! AND I like the way Rugers look!!!
LeonCarr
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I have shot just about every semiauto pistol made, from the various .22s up to the .50 Action Express Desert Eagle, and the only ones that have been 100% reliable for me have been the P-Series Rugers. Every one I have shot (P-89, P-90, P-94, P-95) has been 100% reliable, no malfunctions, zip zero nada.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Just my .02,
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