Why Berry's HP
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ReloaderFred
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The Berry's hollow points don't expand at normal velocities. To drive them fast enough to expand would require driving them beyond their velocity limits, and they will tumble.
They were made because people asked for them. They are usually a little more accurate and they do cut a better hole in paper, but not like a wadcutter.
I use them in 357 Sig and 10mm loadings. I can't tell much difference in accuracy from my 10mm auto pistols, but I can certainly tell the difference in my S&W Model 610 revolver. They are very accurate through it.
For the 357 Sig, which requires a flatnose bullet, they work well, having enough shank to provide good neck tension and good accuracy. They feed well through my Springfield XD in 357 Sig, too.
Hope this helps.
Fred
The Berry's hollow points don't expand at normal velocities. To drive them fast enough to expand would require driving them beyond their velocity limits, and they will tumble.
They were made because people asked for them. They are usually a little more accurate and they do cut a better hole in paper, but not like a wadcutter.
I use them in 357 Sig and 10mm loadings. I can't tell much difference in accuracy from my 10mm auto pistols, but I can certainly tell the difference in my S&W Model 610 revolver. They are very accurate through it.
For the 357 Sig, which requires a flatnose bullet, they work well, having enough shank to provide good neck tension and good accuracy. They feed well through my Springfield XD in 357 Sig, too.
Hope this helps.
Fred
I really like the Berrys .45 200 Gr HP. It shoots very well. It will feed in most any gun that will feed hardball. They cut a nice hole in paper. They do not cut as nice a hole as many SWC's, but surprisingly enough, they cut much better holes than the Hornady FMJ-CT (SWC) that I have been shooting since I caught some on sale back when. I will be buying more Berrys .45 200 Gr HP's.
I know that does not help much with 9MM and .40. Sorry.
I have shot the Berrys 9MM 124 Gr HP and while it shoots well, it can be a bit finicky feeding in some guns.
I know that does not help much with 9MM and .40. Sorry.
I have shot the Berrys 9MM 124 Gr HP and while it shoots well, it can be a bit finicky feeding in some guns.
jjohnson
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They're Okay.
Yep, I buy Berry's because Ranier priced themselves into oblivion.
No way I will pay the same price for a plated bullet as a FMJ.
Plated bullets, being somewhat harder on the outside than cast lead, won't leave as much fouling in your barrel. That's worth considering. For those who figure leading is problematic in Glock or other polygonal barrels, there ya go.
I've been very pleased with the Berry's bullets I've bought. I certainly haven't done any testing for expansion. I don't count on expansion - to me, that's a bonus, so if it works, great. I still shoot a lot of cast lead and am happy with that most of the time. One thing that you can do with plated is push them a bit faster than cast lead.
I doubt that I'll buy more plated bullets until their prices come back to Planet Earth.
Yep, I buy Berry's because Ranier priced themselves into oblivion.
No way I will pay the same price for a plated bullet as a FMJ.Plated bullets, being somewhat harder on the outside than cast lead, won't leave as much fouling in your barrel. That's worth considering. For those who figure leading is problematic in Glock or other polygonal barrels, there ya go.
I've been very pleased with the Berry's bullets I've bought. I certainly haven't done any testing for expansion. I don't count on expansion - to me, that's a bonus, so if it works, great. I still shoot a lot of cast lead and am happy with that most of the time. One thing that you can do with plated is push them a bit faster than cast lead.
I doubt that I'll buy more plated bullets until their prices come back to Planet Earth.
BattleChimp Potemkin
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I would not discount them immediantly. Too many people think they that they arent worth it as a potential defensive situation. While I would not carry them, I do reserve a few hundred loaded at decent velocity as a "strategic reserve"
I have fired the .45 and the 9mm ones into denimed jugs. While not super accurate ninja tests, they do expand, just not super crazy. The 9mm one looks like the old Nyclads, decent expansion. I drove it at 1100 fps, too slow to begin tumbling. Penetration was about 2.5 jugs.
The .45 ones, of the 5 fired into denimed jugs, 4 expanded to about .65 (not crazy, but good for the cost and fed very well), one just squisheaded (but still was .60" diameter). They all went through 3 jugs.
I have fired the .45 and the 9mm ones into denimed jugs. While not super accurate ninja tests, they do expand, just not super crazy. The 9mm one looks like the old Nyclads, decent expansion. I drove it at 1100 fps, too slow to begin tumbling. Penetration was about 2.5 jugs.
The .45 ones, of the 5 fired into denimed jugs, 4 expanded to about .65 (not crazy, but good for the cost and fed very well), one just squisheaded (but still was .60" diameter). They all went through 3 jugs.
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