Why do big box store carry Remington .300 Blackout ammo in supersonic but not Subsonic?

[CoalTrain49]

Where did I ever say you don't have to buy components?

You didn't but both of you guys seem to think that components aren't relevant in start up costs. I say they are and always will be a part of your reloading costs. Most people lay in a supply of ammo, some buy it buy the case. If you're going down that path as a reloaded you're going to have some major expense for components in short order. I buy powder 8lbs at a time, bullets by the 1000. Of course you don't have to do that but a lot of reloaders do. It's not any different than buying a case or two of ammo the first week you buy your first new AR.

I don't know about you but I can only get about 300 rounds of 5.56 out of a 1 lb bottle of powder. I can shoot that in a week. I would say that one needs to figure the entire cost over a year. That's going to be your start up cost, not the first week you have your new press.

But anyway, we disagree. No big deal.

 

[kanook]

$190 Lee reloading kit
$ 40 Lee 300 BO dies
$ 30 1lb powder (7000 grs)
$ 30 1000 CCI primers
$230 1000 220 grain bullets

$520 grand total for 775 loaded sub-sonic (or to round up to an even thousand add another $1 in powder)

Free Brass because most people save their brass before they start to reload

OR
$585 for 1000 Sellier @ Bellot

So I saved $64 and did it myself. now my next 1,000 rds will be $330 for a savings of $255

 

[CraigC]

You didn't but both of you guys seem to think that components aren't relevant in start up costs. I say they are and always will be a part of your reloading costs. Most people lay in a supply of ammo, some buy it buy the case. If you're going down that path as a reloaded you're going to have some major expense for components in short order. I buy powder 8lbs at a time, bullets by the 1000. Of course you don't have to do that but a lot of reloaders do. It's not any different than buying a case or two of ammo the first week you buy your first new AR.

I don't know about you but I can only get about 300 rounds of 5.56 out of a 1 lb bottle of powder. I can shoot that in a week. I would say that one needs to figure the entire cost over a year. That's going to be your start up cost, not the first week you have your new press.

But anyway, we disagree. No big deal.

No, what we have here is a failure to communicate. The startup cost is the equipment. The components are paid for with the ammo budget you're already spending. So unless your ammo is free, your components should not be considered as part of your startup costs.

If you're figuring up a budget to trade an old vehicle for a new one, your "startup" costs, the additional costs you are not already bearing, are those associated with the vehicle itself. Not the gas you'll be burning now or ever. Not the maintenance or tires every 50,000miles. Why? Because you were already buying gas, now you're just putting it in a different vehicle. Same concept. Except in this case, you'll be able to drive two to four times as much on the same fuel budget.

 

[CoalTrain49]

No, what we have here is a failure to communicate. The startup cost is the equipment. The components are paid for with the ammo budget you're already spending. So unless your ammo is free, your components should not be considered as part of your startup costs.

If you're figuring up a budget to trade an old vehicle for a new one, your "startup" costs, the additional costs you are not already bearing, are those associated with the vehicle itself. Not the gas you'll be burning now or ever. Not the maintenance or tires every 50,000miles. Why? Because you were already buying gas, now you're just putting it in a different vehicle. Same concept. Except in this case, you'll be able to drive two to four times as much on the same fuel budget.

Depends on the type of shooter you happen to be. Lets say in the past you purchased ammo and kept a years supply of the shelf. Not a bad idea given that we've had some shortages. Now you decide to reload. The learning curve isn't that steep on a single stage press so in no time at all you're building ammo. At that point you decide to stop buying ammo and you only have a few months worth of factory stuff left. Now what? You buy enough components to load for a year to satisfy your 1 year inventory rule. I have a 2 year inventory rule so I don't think stocking for a year is all that unusual.

You look at costs however you want. I'll figure them all in just like buying a new vehicle. Right there on the MSRP sticker is fuel costs estimated for a year so you don't have to do the math. Not all vehicles get the same mileage or have the same maintenance costs. My wife's CRV has about half the fuel and maintenance cost as my 3/4 ton Duramax. New vehicle costs have nothing to do with my previous fuel and maintenance costs just like my previous ammo costs. Most people suck at math and figuring out what stuff actually costs.

 

[CraigC]

Most people suck at math and figuring out what stuff actually costs.

Yes, they do.

So the money you spend a month right now does not factor into the budget for a new vehicle? Interesting. Did you take any accounting courses?

Like I said, in this analogy, it would be like trading a vehicle that gets 10mpg for one that gets 40-50mpg.

 

[CoalTrain49]

So the money you spend a month right now does not factor into the budget for a new vehicle? Interesting. Did you take any accounting courses?

LMAO. You don't need accounting courses to figure this out. It just takes a little common sense and some high school math. Actually, they may teach this stuff in grade school now, not sure. I have a civil engineering degree if that helps.

OAO good buddy.

 

[CraigC]

Apparently you do because you're just throwing that part out of the equation. So if you're paying $100 a month on factory ammo right now, when you start reloading, where does that hundred bucks go???

 

[Texas10mm]

LMAO. You don't need accounting courses to figure this out. It just takes a little common sense and some high school math. Actually, they may teach this stuff in grade school now, not sure. I have a civil engineering degree if that helps.

OAO good buddy.

I had guessed you were either an engineer or an accountant, it all makes sense now.

 

[BlueHeelerFl]

My local Wal Mart has Remingtion sub and super sonic ammo, and Federal super sonic

 

[Aim1]

My local Wal Mart has Remingtion sub and super sonic ammo, and Federal super sonic

Nice.


I stopped by Gander Outdoors a few days ago and they had no Remington subs or supers in .300 Blackout.