Why noone invades switzerland

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Why noone invades switzerland

1) The country is the "safe" of just about any very powerful person in this planet...and mainly ill-gotten riches.

2) Extreme difficult terrain which would slow down any invading army...in some regard even worse than Afghanistan, the notorious "empire's grave".

3) Extremely proud and determined population and, up to some degree, their familiarity with guns and their training.


The only option is nuke it....:evil:
 
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A good read on the Neutrals is:

Neither Friend Nor Foe: The European Neutrals in World War II - Hardcover (Nov. 1992) by Jerrold M. Packard

Look at Sweden and Switzerland. Neither were invaded but we don't hear much about Swedish guns, etc.

Both countries cooperated reasonably well with the Reich. Second, Switzerland had not just the proclaimed rifles (they had a trivial airforce and armor) but allowed transportation of German troops and supplies through the country. Those transportation assets were mined and their destruction was a greater threat than armed resistance, esp. since there was no need to invade Switzerland.

Swiss neutrality is not the shining example for the RKBA and a trained historian could take down the cliche quite easily.
 
A neutral country serves a need for belligerents. However, who’s going to try to invade a country where there’s a rifle behind every bar of chocolate.

The Swiss guard the Pope because the first Pope who hired them was colorblind and thought they were wearing camouflage. Well, in Rome perhaps it IS camouflage.
 
I have serious doubts as to the effectiveness of rifles to really damage a well equipped invader. As much as we all like small arms the truth is that rifles alone won't dent an army. Now high explosives are what gets you in business (case in point: Iraq).

Both countries cooperated reasonably well with the Reich. Second, Switzerland had not just the proclaimed rifles (they had a trivial airforce and armor) but allowed transportation of German troops and supplies through the country. Those transportation assets were mined and their destruction was a greater threat than armed resistance, esp. since there was no need to invade Switzerland.

If that is accurate then geography probably was the deterrent that allowed Switzerland to remain sovereign... and high explosives, because you can't blow up passes and bridges with rifles.

BTW if the Swiss did blow up all entrances to the country, where would they get their chocolate from? Cocoa trees don't grow in the alps you know...:D
 
No one attacks the Swiss because only a fool would attack their bank!:eek: The Third Reich did a vast amount of banking business with the Swiss. A lot of it was stolen gold, and gold teeth from the camps.

The Swiss after many years paid back part of the principle, but kept the interest.

Being the bank is usualy very safe, no one shoots up their own bank.
 
My very best friend lives in Switzerland.
True the Swiss are not as anti firearm as most Euro countries but according to my friend the reason of not being invaded is mostly one of terrain.

Neutral??
Sweden and Switzerland did business with all sides in WWII...As a matter of survival for one and it was in their finanacial business interest too.
 
Sweden and Switzerland did business with all sides in WWII...As a matter of survival for one and it was in their finanacial business interest too.
You have to also remember the 1940 winter war between Finland and Russia. A Russian takeover of Finland would have poised a very serious threat to Swedens national security. So if they had sided with the allies they would have been threatened by the Germans who had taken over Norway and if they sided with the Axis they would have had to send troops to support the Finns and face a very serious threat of invasion by the Russians. So saying the Swedes should have been on one side or the other doesn't really take into account that they were in between a rock and a hard place.
 
Got to thinking about this issue this morning....

There were three entry points to the Swiss Alpine redoubt (line of last resistence) and a few good marksmen could hold off a much larger force or make the cost of conquering exceed the benefit.

Ever wonder why military surplus Swiss K31 stocks are usually beat up in fair to good condition, even though the actions and barrels average very good or better? The Swiss drilled like crazy is why.

The real reason though probably died with Hitler: he made plans but never gave the final order.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tannenbaum

Germany started planning the invasion of Switzerland on 25 June 1940, the day France surrendered. At this point the German Army in France consisted of three army groups with 2 million soldiers in 102 divisions.[10] Switzerland and Liechtenstein were completely surrounded by Occupied France and the Axis Powers, and so (Swiss General Henri) Guisan issued Operationsbefehl Nr. 10, a complete overhaul of existing Swiss defensive plans. The St. Maurice and St. Gotthard Passes in the south and the Fortress Sargans in the northeast would serve as the defense line. The Alps would be their fortress. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Army Corps were to fight delaying actions at the border, while all who could retreated to the Alpine refuge known as the Réduit national. The population centers were all located in the flat plains of the north, however. They would have to be left to the Germans in order for the rest to survive.[11]

Hitler demanded to see plans for the invasion of Switzerland. Franz Halder, the head of OKH, recalled: "I was constantly hearing of outbursts of Hitler’s fury against Switzerland, which, given his mentality, might have led at any minute to military activities for the army."[12] Captain Otto Wilhelm von Menges in OKH submitted a draft plan for the invasion. Generaloberst Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb’s Heeresgruppe ‘C’ (HGr. C), led by Generalleutnant Wilhelm List and 12th Army would conduct the attack. Leeb himself personally reconnoitered the terrain, studying the most promising invasion routes and paths of least resistance.[13] Menges noted in his plan that Swiss resistance was unlikely and that a nonviolent Anschluss was the most likely result. With "the current political situation in Switzerland," he wrote, "it might accede to ultimatum demands in a peaceful manner, so that after a warlike border crossing a rapid transition to a peaceful invasion must be assured."[14]

The plan continued to undergo revision until October, when 12th Army submitted its fourth draft, now called "Operation Tannenbaum." The original plan called for 21 German divisions, but that figure was revised downwards to 11 by OKH. Halder himself had studied the border areas, and concluded that the "Jura frontier offers no favorable base for an attack. Switzerland rises, in successive waves of wood-covered terrain across the axis of an attack. The crossing points on the river Doubs and the border are few; the Swiss frontier position is strong." He decided on an infantry feint in the Jura in order to draw out the Swiss Army and then cut it off in the rear, as had been done in France. With the 11 German divisions and roughly 15 more Italian divisions prepared to enter from the south, the Swiss were looking at an invasion by somewhere between 300,000 and 500,000 men.[15]

Hitler never gave the go-ahead, for reasons that are still uncertain today. Although the Wehrmacht feigned moves toward Switzerland in its offensives, it never attempted to invade. After D-Day, the operation was put on hold and Switzerland remained neutral for the duration of the war.

10. Ernest May, Strange Victory: Hitler’s Conquest of France (New York: Hill and Wang, 2000) 477.
11. "Operationsbefehl Nr. 10," June 20, 1940, Tagesbefehle des Generals.
12. Steinberg, Why Switzerland? 68.
13. Gerhard Weinberg, A World at Arms: A Global History of World War II, 2nd edition (New York: Cambridge University Press, 2005), 174.
14. Klaus Urner, "Let’s Swallow Switzerland": Hitler’s Plans against the Swiss Confederation (Lanham, MD: Lexington Books, 2001) 67.
15. Angelo Codevilla, Between the Alps and a Hard Place: Switzerland in World War II and Moral Blackmail Today (Washington, D.C.: Regnery, 2000) 57-58.

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I have some insight in that I lived in Geneva for a year, and made some friends while there. We had this discussion on several occasions. here is the gist of it.

1. The Swiss don't go around poking sleeping or angry dogs.
2. Without provocation, why would you pick a fight with your bank.
3. The Swiss have a very well armed and well trained army.
4. The Swiss also have a well armed population.
5. Logistically the Swiss have a huge advantage, the mountains are hollow, (so to speak)and there is a vast network of underground infrastructure that could sustain the country even if it were under siege.


So ask yourself, even if you were a crazy, tyranical dicatator why on earth would you target the Swiss?

BTW How is this gun related?
 
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So ask yourself, even if you were a crazy, tyranical dicatator why on earth would you target the Swiss?

Esp. when they cooperated with you. BTW, the Swiss currently are down-sizing their air force to a trivial one.

The Swiss have been extremely cooperative in returning property and wealth seized by the Nazis and stashed there - NOT! :banghead:
 
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That phrase went out in the mid nineties.

And it was annoying even then.:neener:

Every war needs a banker and a neutral means of communication, the Swiss are good at both.

It is just as fast, and probably quite a bit easier to just go around Switzerland, ask Hannibal.

Unless your war aims are spectacular views and Alpine scenery, ski resorts, nice watches, and cheap, plentiful supplies of Ricola, there are not too many easily exploited resources that make Switzerland worth the effort.

There is more to be gained from keeping a neutral Swiss state than you could gain from conquering the tiny little pile of rocks full of yodeling, watch making, bankers.

OK, Toblerone may make it almost worth while. Almost.:rolleyes:
 
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