Why would anyone buy a Flintlock with a plastic stock?

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

I can't believe my eyes here - T/C is offering a traditional-looking (other than the stock material) FLINTlock rifle with a plastic stock, and stainless steel. I cannot imagine who would buy one. If you're gonna go THAT traditional, you're gonna hate plastic stocks, which completely ruin the traditional look you're going for..... no? This causes even more dissonance in my brain than the electronic trigger ML.

Warning: Eye & Brain hazard ahead:

http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/mzModernFlint.php

Are there any states that do not allow caplocks?

 

[arcticap]

Everyone should already know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

http://rmcsports.com/catalog.htm

Every stock material has it's advantages and disadvantages.
Stainless steel looks beautiful.
Plastic is fully functional and comes with some added benefits.
It's stable, weatherproof and chemical resistant.
It doesn't easily chip, crack or burn, and it's lightweight and economical.
No one needs to buy one that would prefer something else.
Maybe they're made for the guy who already has everything and wants
to keep people working in New Hampshire!

 

[BlackNet]

OK I will bite. It's prob for the inline crowd.

 

[WardenWolf]

The two primary reasons for composites are weight and ruggedness. Composites don't dent and crack like wood does, and you can often save around 1 1/2 pounds of weight. Granted, I prefer the wood on practically every firearm design that originally had it in terms of appearance, but if I'm choosing a survival rifle or a rifle I have to lug around over rough terrain I'm probably going composite.

 

[frontiergander]

doesnt matter what the stock is as long as its reliable and holds up to all hunting conditions. Lowering the price of the product and keeping weight down is their main reason for using plastic. I'll take my curly maple mountain rifles over the plastic though LOL

 

[Vermonter]

I'd like to get one as a survival rifle. You can find flint and make your own BP. It's about function, not fashion.

 

[Chawbaccer]

I think it is Pennsylvania that only allows flintlock for hunting.
I say, "To each his own". The quest is to take a deer more than the enjoyment of muzzleloading hunting.

 

[Old Fuff]

As a person who once converted a 1911 Pistol into a single-shot/muzzle loading pistol, and carried a ramrod where the recoil spring is supposed to be...

I am probably unqualified to answer the question...

 

[redneck2]

As noted by Chawbacccer, I have read that PA. only allows flintlock

 

[sundance44s]

No I wouldn`t buy any gun with a plastic stock ....a huge part of the sex apeal of these old guns is in the wood stocks .
I take that back ..my SKS has a black plastic stock ..but it ain`t purdy ...just deadly .

 

[timberwolf204]

Pa flintlock season

PA does have a flintlock only season which is going on now, but in october you can use flintlock, caplock or an inline, just has to be 45 caliber or larger, and they got a little easier on the projectile restrictions. Used to have to use round ball only but now you can use what ever as long as it is single projectile. Hope i helped some thanks

Jason

 

[BHP FAN]

One of the options is 'Dark Rosewood'' ...that wouldn't suck.

 

[Macmac]

I sure wouldn't know why.... and I hope the TC flintlocks are better than they were in the 70's/80's too.

The rainbow guns in the add above with the L&R locks must be at least reliable. L&R is a fairly good lock.

I don't believe I own any kind of gun with any plastic on it, but I might on one or another old 22 rifles with something decorative at the pistol grip.

 

[ROAshooter]

can ya put a laser on it??
think about it as the final "SHTF" weapon.......you can make everything necessary from scatch to make it go bang....and its not yet listed as a an evil rifle.....no forms to fill out...can be bought through the mail....think about it!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

PA does have a flintlock only season

Ahhh, that's it; thanks. That's gonna be the reason for 90% plus of the purchases - guys who want every possible advantage but have to comply with the strict letter of the law.

As for the guys who are worried about modern ammo, primers, and percussion caps becoming scarce, and fighting in a Mad Max primitive scenario using flint and homebrew BP, whether or not that is a valid concern (and maybe it is), I do acknowledge that those types are out there in the country, as one posted here. But the reality is they are gonna be an extraordinarily small percentage of the market - but I guess they're the other 10% of buyers. Starting to make a little more sense now; thanks.

As for just touting the advantage of plastic stocks on rifles in general - no, Idonthinso. That doesn't fly because absent the special Penn season, there is no one, but no one, who is going to CHOOSE a flintlock, and also NOT CHOOSE a traditional wood stock. Just ain't gonna happen. It's like oil and water; don't mix.

As a person who once converted a 1911 Pistol into a single-shot/muzzle loading pistol, and carried a ramrod where the recoil spring is supposed to be

Now that's funny. But I will note that it wasn't a Wilson KZ45 with a plastic frame...now, was it?

 

[4v50 Gary]

Friends don't let friends buy plastic stock flintlocks.

Kidding. I'd go for a Ferguson with a plastic stock. It would certainly be a lot stronger than a wood stock.

 

[43171C]

Flintlock with a Plastic Stock

WHY?? At least here in Arkansas, the idea of a special hunting season for deer caught on in 1971 when the state held it's first, Muzzle Loading Only deer hunt in one area of the state, Sylamore in north central Arkansas. This opened the door to everyone having the chance to get an additional deer each year. It also opened the door to great numbers of reproductions of the original Muzzle Loading rifles.

As always, there are those who insist on testing the limits of anything, including this new hunting season. The original idea of using older antiquated type rifles quickly lost it's appeal. The idea shifted from doing it like grandpa did to again, doing it as easy as possible. Laminated and or Plastic/Synthetic stocks, Inline firing, the use of Rifle Scopes etc.. Where did we jump the track?

I no longer hunt anything past the next cup of coffee. While my personal choice changed in 1975 from hunting to other ways to enjoy the outdoors, I still support everyones choice of hunting or not. My choice changed when one morning sitting in my tree stand thinking I was the only one around, I hear what sounded like the sounds of an all out attack on some military outpost. The fellow, I never saw him, could not have been to far from me cut loose with what sounded like .30 Carbine with a 30 round clip. I believe he was shooting at a running deer as each round sounded a little different as he emptied the clip. I would bet that he killed the deer but I would give 2 to 1 odds that he never found it. With this type nuts in the woods, I decided one must go, Me, I quit and have not hunted nor even purchased a hunting license sinice.

I would be very much in favor of getting back to the original idea behind the Special Muzzle Loading hunt using what are in fucntion and appearance, what our ansestors used. One shot capibility usually makes one a much better shot.

I know, I just opened myself up for a Storm of Comments.

J.C.

 

[43171C]

Flintlock with a Plastic Stock

WHY?? At least here in Arkansas, the idea of a special hunting season for deer caught on in 1971 when the state held it's first, Muzzle Loading Only deer hunt in one area of the state, Sylamore in north central Arkansas. This opened the door to everyone having the chance to get an additional deer each year. It also opened the door to great numbers of reproductions of the original Muzzle Loading rifles.

As always, there are those who insist on testing the limits of anything, including this new hunting season. The original idea of using older antiquated type rifles quickly lost it's appeal. The idea shifted from doing it like grandpa did to again, doing it as easy as possible. Laminated and or Plastic/Synthetic stocks, Inline firing, the use of Rifle Scopes etc.. Where did we jump the track?

I no longer hunt anything past the next cup of coffee. While my personal choice changed in 1975 from hunting to other ways to enjoy the outdoors, I still support everyones choice of hunting or not. My choice changed when one morning sitting in my tree stand thinking I was the only one around, I hear what sounded like the sounds of an all out attack on some military outpost. The fellow, I never saw him, could not have been to far from me cut loose with what sounded like .30 Carbine with a 30 round clip. I believe he was shooting at a running deer as each round sounded a little different as he emptied the clip. I would bet that he killed the deer but I would give 2 to 1 odds that he never found it. With this type nuts in the woods, I decided one must go, Me, I quit and have not hunted nor even purchased a hunting license sinice.

I would be very much in favor of getting back to the original idea behind the Special Muzzle Loading hunt using what are in fucntion and appearance, what our ansestors used. One shot capibility usually makes one a much better shot.

I know, I just opened myself up for a Storm of Comments.

J.C.

 

[goon]

Yep, part of it is probably for the flintlock only season in PA (and maybe some other states).

But personally, I think as long as you take care of a wood stock it would do just as well.
They worked fine for colonists, mountain men, and countless others over the last 400 years or so.

 

[alemonkey]

I have nothing against plastic stocks......on a modern centerfire rifle. I shoot BP for the nostalgia, to take me back to a time when men were men and craftsmen built working works of art that people depending on for their livelihoods and lives. When I'm shooting BP, I want to feel that connection to my forefathers.

 

[messerist]

Plastic stock flintlock

The Horror!:banghead:

 

[scrat]

plastic stocks and those rosewoods. i just cant do it.