(WI) 100 guns found in dead man's home

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100 guns found in dead man's home

Kristi Haunfelder, Staff Writer August 09, 2005

City of Pewaukee - City of Pewaukee police have returned 91 of the more-than-100 firearms they were holding for safekeeping to the family of Hal Erdmann, 73, of N40 W22560 Overhill Lane.

Erdmann, a federally licensed firearms dealer and collector, was found dead in his home the afternoon of July 1, after friends reported they had attempted to contact him for about a week and had not heard from him, the police report said.

"He had a number of health issues," said City of Pewaukee Police Capt. Dave Funkhouser. Police are awaiting a toxicology report, but it appears Erdmann died of natural causes.

"There was nothing to indicate foul play," Funkhouser said.

When a relative told police he did not want to take custody of Erdmann's firearms collection, police went to look at the collection, most of which was in the basement.

Police discovered the collection was extensive, with more than 50 rifles, many of them from different countries, and more than 40 handguns, many of which were also from other countries.

Police also found two mortars and explosive rounds for the weapons, several fully automatic machine guns of different types and a wide variety of ammunition for the various weapons.

Some of the fully automatic weapons were an Uzi, Mac-10 machine pistols, a Thompson submachine gun (Tommy gun), a Browning 30-caliber belt-fed machine gun mounted on a tripod and a World War II German machine gun.

"It was definitely unique," Funkhouser said. "I don't know if I will see anything like it again except maybe in a museum."

While the collection included some modern weapons, newer than 10 or 15 years, most were older pieces. There is no concern that the weapons were being stockpiled or used for terrorist or other such activities.

Funkhouser said Erdmann was clearly a collector, and was fully licensed to buy, sell, trade and repair weapons, and was not in violation of any ordinance that Funkhouser was aware of in having the firearms in his home.

"From everything we could see, it was a completely legitimate operation," said Funkhouser. "The Constitution allows people the right to bear arms. He certainly exercised his rights, and, from everything we were able to determine, he was doing it lawfully."

Because of the large number of firearms, the City of Pewaukee contacted the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. After agents viewed the collection, the agency directed police to contact the Milwaukee County Bomb Squad to assist in removing some items from the house, including the mortars.

The City of Pewaukee Police Department took custody of the collection until the family and the executor of Erdmann's will could determine what to do with it.

"We didn't seize (the firearms) for any criminal investigation," Funkhouser said.

It was common knowledge in the area that Erdmann had the collection, and police were concerned about leaving the collection in the vacant house. They took the items into custody in the interest of public safety, Funkhouser said.

The ATF also needed to make sure that all the paperwork was in order for the items found in the home.

Of the weapons held by police, 91 have been returned to the family, along with ammunition and other property.

Police continue to hold the machine guns and mortars while the ATF continues tracking the paperwork.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=14998773&BRD=1399&PAG=461&dept_id=173065&rfi=6
 
When a relative told police he did not want to take custody of Erdmann's firearms collection, police went to look at the collection, most of which was in the basement.


It would appear this guy didn't have anybody in the family who shared his passion for firearms. :( Sad.
 
Thats not to far from where I live. I am sorry to hear of the mans death :( I am glad to hear a story that involves law abiding citizens, and not criminals. If the family doesn't want the firearms, they should setup a museum, I would certainly pay to see that collection :cool:
 
Seriously, it's not like any family member is going to say, "Sure, drop off the 91 firearms in my LIVING ROOM! Then, just publish that you did that on the internet."
 
They could give me all 91 firearms, and publish that on the internet. As long as I had some ammo to go with them, I could defend off anyone trying to "borrow" one.
 
Sorry that an honest and interesting man has died but...

I'll have to keep an eye out for that auction ;)

If he's 73 and hasn't given a lot of stuff to his kids or grandkids, its probably becaus ethey aren't interested at all in his hobby or he doesn't like them very much, I would pick the former.
 
It was common knowledge in the area that Erdmann had the collection, and police were concerned about leaving the collection in the vacant house. They took the items into custody in the interest of public safety, Funkhouser said.

Thank GOD.

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If no one in his family wants them, what happens to the Class 3s? Can his Estate sell them, or do they disappear from the transferrable pool?

Sorry to see one of the good guys pass, he sounds like someone who would be quite at home here.
 
Well written story, and kudos to Pewakee (I spent some time there may moons ago!).

But - maybe- shame on the old man for not finding a suitable recipient for his collection before he died. He prolly spent a lot of time and effort building that collection. You wouldn't think it would be too hard to find someone to pass the collection on to.

Put that info in your will! :fire:
 
It is my understanding that anyone with a Class 3 and there are people around with them can still buy those weapons as long as there is all the paper work to go with them.
 
There is no concern that the weapons were being stockpiled or used for terrorist or other such activities.

..."From everything we could see, it was a completely legitimate operation," said Funkhouser. "The Constitution allows people the right to bear arms. He certainly exercised his rights, and, from everything we were able to determine, he was doing it lawfully."

..."We didn't seize (the firearms) for any criminal investigation," Funkhouser said.

FUNKHOUSER FOR PRESIDENT!!!
 
I would vote for him, just so we could have a "President Funkhouser." Man, that would make for some great bumper-stickers, buttons, etc. The White House would be the House of Funk! Let's start the grass roots movement.


There is no concern that the weapons were being stockpiled or used for terrorist or other such activities.
Good, 'cause that's the first thought that went through my head. This must be the "sickening love affair with guns" that Bryant Gumbel warned us about.
 
When's the estate sale?

Funkhouser said Erdmann was clearly a collector, and was fully licensed to buy, sell, trade and repair weapons, and was not in violation of any ordinance that Funkhouser was aware of in having the firearms in his home.

Sanity, not ranting hysteria.
 
It sounds like the police and ATF are doing what they should for a change. Good article!
 
Yup, sounds like it's all good, all around. the last 9 firearms are likely the class 3 items and are probably just awaiting someone getting their stamps back from ATF.

Sounds like there was a 1919A4 in there :)
 
hifi: er, yes, they took the firearms into custody in the interests of public safety. In my mind, this has nothing to do with being afraid of the evil, evil guns and what they might do to innocent schoolchildren as they walk past his house, and everything to do with not leaving a significant collection of firearms - including class 3s - lying around in a house that people know is unoccupied and full of guns.

I'm against background checks of any kind for gun purchases (after all, if you're a felon who can't be trusted with guns, what are you doing out of prison?), but even I don't think it's a good idea to leave a mountain of guns and ammo lying around with a big "STEAL ME" sign on it. You don't even need to postulate criminals, just your average high school punks screwing around. Heck, when I was in HS, I might have been tempted to take a peek at real, live mortar rounds, and I was a pretty straight-laced sort of guy.
 
I'm 37, and I currently own 24 firearms of various types. I guess I should start looking at who will get them when my time comes. If I live as long as that gentleman did I will probably have as many, though I probably won't have any Class 3's.
 
Because of the large number of firearms, the City of Pewaukee contacted the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. After agents viewed the collection, the agency directed police to contact the Milwaukee County Bomb Squad to assist in removing some items from the house, including the mortars.
I didn't know BATFE could order local law enforcement around.

Pilgrim
 
*ahem*

If anyone interested is interested in making sure that their collection goes to a good home, please feel free to mention me in your will. I will ensure that your collection gets the love and attention it deserves.

Thanks for you consideration.





I sure hope his collection gets adopted into a nice loving home.
 
"From everything we could see, it was a completely legitimate operation," said Funkhouser. "The Constitution allows people the right to bear arms. He certainly exercised his rights, and, from everything we were able to determine, he was doing it lawfully."

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